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Feral-verse: Pride (FF7 AU, Feral-verse)
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jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: April 26th, 2008 10:13 am (UTC) (Link)
Mmmm. Delicious. So...are all the feral Turks foxes except Tseng, or just most of them? And I loved the way Rufus had so many different reasons for assigning Vandal and Rude to infiltration duty, and especially the deepest one, the ethical issue of making sure they wanted to be with the ferals now.

It was interesting that you picked such a minor original character to focus on and use for your viewpoint character, but very effective and I find that I like Vandal for her practicality and her clear view of how little moral difference there can be between ferals and humans.

Also Rufus' emphasis on Aeris being the last of her strain, gives me ideas about how there might be even more strains of Cetra lying dormant, instead of the fairly simple binary set-up you've introduced so far, and that could be interesting in the future.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 27th, 2008 01:29 am (UTC) (Link)
Mmmm. Delicious.

Thanks! ^_^

So...are all the feral Turks foxes except Tseng, or just most of them?

Actually, I haven't quite made any final decisions, but it's probably most of them. I do know that Elena and her sister Tasha are definitely foxes.

And I loved the way Rufus had so many different reasons for assigning Vandal and Rude to infiltration duty, and especially the deepest one, the ethical issue of making sure they wanted to be with the ferals now.

Isn't that sort of convoluted multi-layered scheming so typical of Rufus? ::snicker:: He cares a great deal about the Turks (considering all they've been through together -- see his very subtle reactions in Advent Children when Kadaj flings Tseng's and Elena's bloodied IDs on the floor), but it's not in Rufus's nature to show it. But I imagine that as time passes in Feral-verse, Rufus and the Turks will become less leader/subordinate and more of a family-style pack. Rufus strikes me as a person who really prizes loyalty, but only if it's freely given. I mean that he's perfectly glad to make use of someone who's been coerced into service, but he won't value or trust them the same way he would someone who offers him allegiance of their own free will.

It was interesting that you picked such a minor original character to focus on and use for your viewpoint character, but very effective and I find that I like Vandal for her practicality and her clear view of how little moral difference there can be between ferals and humans.

I found her character description for the "Before Crisis" game particularly appealing, so maybe Vandal is a little bit of a Mary Sue for me? ^_^;;;;

From the Final Fantasy Wiki - "As a mercenary, she has seen a lot of battle and is accustomed to taking orders. As such, she adjusted to her new-found role in the Turks easier than some. A thoroughly businesslike woman during missions, she gets her work done with a minimum of fuss. She is level-headed, alert and perceptive, frequently able to assess a situation and take the most prudent course of action."

But aside from that, I found that using a minor character like her is a good way for the readers to get an inside look at what's going on with Rufus and Turks, especially when I'm trying to convey a lot of background information. She's part of the action, but at the same time, she's not so directly involved with it.

Also Rufus' emphasis on Aeris being the last of her strain, gives me ideas about how there might be even more strains of Cetra lying dormant, instead of the fairly simple binary set-up you've introduced so far, and that could be interesting in the future.

Actually, I wasn't thinking of the protectors and the nurturers as the only two strains of Cetra, but rather more like the two broad categories which encompass multiple strains or bloodlines.

So for example, Aeris's particular bloodline might have an extra affinity for plants, while another bloodline might have had a similar one for animals. Long ago, there might have been bloodlines that specialized in physical healing while others specialized in mental or emotional healing, etc. Aeris is the last survivor of the most powerful of the nurturer bloodlines (which might explain why it persisted so long) so she's talented in multiple areas.

Similarly, for protectors, some bloodlines might be more defensively inclined (Zack, perhaps?), while others are more of a hunt-and-destroy type (like Sephiroth). Vincent's particular bloodline might have specialized in shapeshifting. Cid's bloodline is very draconic, with a strong air/space affinity.

Also, the protector and nuturing categories are not mutually exclusive. Rufus has aspects of both -- he has very good physical healing abilities as well as extremely strong elemental abilities which can be used either in combat or restoration.
jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: April 29th, 2008 01:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
I do know that Elena and her sister Tasha are definitely foxes.


Yeah, that fits them.

Isn't that sort of convoluted multi-layered scheming so typical of Rufus?

True, and a great point of characterisation.

I mean that he's perfectly glad to make use of someone who's been coerced into service, but he won't value or trust them the same way he would someone who offers him allegiance of their own free will.

It would be stupid to trust them as much as if they'd offered allegiance freely anyway.

I found her character description for the "Before Crisis" game particularly appealing, so maybe Vandal is a little bit of a Mary Sue for me? ^_^;;;;

Not at all. I hadn't realised she was from canon, but you brought her to life for me. Maybe a minor self-insert, but if you keep it within bounds that's really not a problem. I know Clive Cussler uses himself as a one-scene character in just about all of his more recent NUMA books for instance.

But aside from that, I found that using a minor character like her is a good way for the readers to get an inside look at what's going on with Rufus and Turks, especially when I'm trying to convey a lot of background information. She's part of the action, but at the same time, she's not so directly involved with it.

So very true. This information could seem like an infodump, but you make her concerns so real, and give Rufus a reason to be explaining things to her, and to Tseng, so I didn't realise how much fresh background you gave us until afterwards.

Actually, I wasn't thinking of the protectors and the nurturers as the only two strains of Cetra, but rather more like the two broad categories which encompass multiple strains or bloodlines.

Ah, I see. That makes sense 'protectors' and 'nurturers' as sub-species with the specialisations within those categories as breeds, or something similar. Although in that case...perhaps Jenova and her kind were once a third Cetra sub-species, 'destroyers' that was rejected by the other two sub-species long enough ago to have evolved very differently from the rest of the Cetra?
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: May 1st, 2008 02:41 am (UTC) (Link)
h, I see. That makes sense 'protectors' and 'nurturers' as sub-species with the specialisations within those categories as breeds, or something similar. Although in that case...perhaps Jenova and her kind were once a third Cetra sub-species, 'destroyers' that was rejected by the other two sub-species long enough ago to have evolved very differently from the rest of the Cetra?

Now that's a very interesting thought. ^_^ Perhaps a very, very long time ago, a single ancient space-faring race split into two groups -- one followed a more symbiotic culture (Cetra - nuturers and protectors) and the other became aggressively parasitic (Jenova). As you said, over time, the two groups evolved very differently, but even now probably share some common traits. And on Gaea, the two branches of that ancient race ran into each other by pure chance and... well, let's say Jenova held one hell of a racial grudge.

Or you could go with a slightly different version of that theory that the ancient race was composed of nurturer and warrier classes, but the warrior class split, with some allying with the nurturers (becomeing the protectors) and the more aggressive being driven off or going off on their own (i.e., destroyers like Jenova).

Thanks! There's lots of really good brain food for my plot-beasties here! =^.^=
jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: May 1st, 2008 09:48 am (UTC) (Link)
Glad to help.
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