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Feral-verse: Contagion 5/? (FF7 AU, Feral-verse)
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jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: January 25th, 2008 11:59 am (UTC) (Link)
It will definitely be interesting -- and fun! -- change in group dynamics for both Rufus and the Turks. Right now, they're still operating very much in a professional 'employer and employees' sort of mode. However, feral packs are much more like a family. So while Rufus will still clearly be the alpha and leader, the Turks will have considerably more latitude to be a little more intrusive (as close relatives are prone to do), ask personal questions, etc.

Wonder who'll have the hardest time adapting, at least of the Turks that do Change. Rufus might take a while to get used to the closer
relationship, or some of the 'omega' Turks might be 'shy' about approaching their Alpha, even when they need to.

Zack didn't have to worry about those two things for several reasons. For one thing, he did have several days to get used to his

transformed state before he met up with Cloud. Also, Zack was soaking in the Lifestream for a while, so it's likely that he's been subconsciously absorbing information all that time -- that does a lot to explain why he knows so much about what's going on with Jenova, ferals, etc.


Well, he didn't worry 'on-screen' then, and yes, I guess it does, although that leaves the question of why Aeris wasn't the first to go feral, unless it was because her 'civilised' Cetra strain inherited from Ifalna was getting in the way.

With respect to possible interference, Rufus doesn't want people interfering -- well meant or not -- with the Turks' Change. Compared to Cloud, the Turks are in a much more vulnerable position, because the Turks start out as fully human and have the full transition to go through. Rufus wants to get the Change well started in them before anyone tries to screw things up. In contrast, Zack doesn't have to worry nearly so much about interference with regard to Cloud. Cloud's physique is already majorly enhanced and he's undoubtedly one of the strongest and dangerous things on the Planet. Furthermore, Cloud's been exposed to the feral virus for years (starting at the Nibel Reactor, same as Zack) and therefore he's much further along in the process of Changing, although a lot of that Changing was obscured and camouflaged by the enhancements he received during those years of experimentation in Nibelheim. In other words, there's not much anyone can do to interfering with Cloud's Change, but interfering with the Turks's Change may cause actual harm.

That makes a lot of sense, and raises interesting questions regarding Yuffie and Nanaki's eventual Change. I mean, has Yuffie's Change been taking place slowly over the five years between now and that short fic you posted where she turned Leviathan, with the emotional stress triggering it, or was it in remission or something? Or was the delay a result of precisely the sort of interference Rufus is worried about?
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: January 26th, 2008 10:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wonder who'll have the hardest time adapting, at least of the Turks that do Change. Rufus might take a while to get used to the closer relationship, or some of the 'omega' Turks might be 'shy' about approaching their Alpha, even when they need to.

I see Reno adapting almost immediately -- behavior-wise, I think he's practically half-feral already. Tseng, after some thought, copes quite well. For the other 'inner circle' Turks, the 'boss-to-pack leader' part is easy, but it will take a while to get used to the shift in the personal and emotional interactions. The group dynamic definitely won't change in an instant, but more over a period of months or years.

although that leaves the question of why Aeris wasn't the first to go feral, unless it was because her 'civilised' Cetra strain inherited from Ifalna was getting in the way.

Yes, in Aeris, the 'civilized' or 'nuturer' Cetra strain is dominant, so she wouldn't become infected from casual exposure to the feral virus. It requires a deliberate and significant inoculation of the feral virus for her to Change, which explains why Zack is trying to recover her physical body. Because Aeris is actually a half-breed -- half 'nuturer' Cetra and half human (with feral Cetra potential), she still needs the Change to boost her up to the equivalent of a full Cetra.

Also, because of her dominant 'nuturer' Cetra genes, Aeris doesn't pick up on the same information Zack does in the Lifestream. There are certain types of information that all Cetra can 'hear' or absorb, and then there are other types of information that only those with the 'nurturer' strain or only those with the feral strain can pick up.

For example, the Lifestream may bear a warning about Jenova's increased activity, but Aeris and Zack would hear different versions. A nuturer Cetra's (Aeris) version being more directed to how to prevent/remedy the problem, while a feral Cetra's (Zack) version would be focused on how to deal with the problem from a defensive/offensive aspect.

That makes a lot of sense, and raises interesting questions regarding Yuffie and Nanaki's eventual Change. I mean, has Yuffie's Change been taking place slowly over the five years between now and that short fic you posted where she turned Leviathan, with the emotional stress triggering it, or was it in remission or something? Or was the delay a result of precisely the sort of interference Rufus is worried about?

Okay, here's my feral Cetra virus theory. ^_^;

In the beginning, the feral virus hit hard and obviously (e.g., Cid and Rufus). But as you might imagine, once people figured out that there was a causal link between being sick and going feral, they naturally resorted to extreme methods to prevent the spread of the virus -- e.g., mass quarantines, internment camps, outright murder of sick individuals, etc. -- even though only a relatively small percentage of those sick actually Changed or went subferal.

Due to this environmental pressure, the semi-sentient feral virus quickly camouflages itself -- in other words, it rapidly mutates from a contagious disease with obvious immediate symptoms (e.g., like rabies) into something much slower, but much harder to detect until it's too late (e.g., like mad cow disease).

So five years down the line, there are two types of the feral virus floating around: (1) a fast onset, easily identifable version which is still untreatable, but whose outbreaks are fairly easily contained; and (2) a slow, subtle insidious version which lurks like a timebomb in people waiting for just the right trigger to explode.

Yuffie, Nanaki, and Reeve have the second version. ::evil grin:: The Change have been slowly progressing in them over the years, but with no obvious, clearcut symptoms -- again, rather like mad cow disease, but fortunately with much more beneficial results.

At the time of the later story, a few people are starting to suspect the existence of the second version of the feral virus, but the majority of the humans are fixated on the stamping out the first version (by whatever means are necessary, however draconian) -- probably because there's not much they can do about the second version (e.g., no easy tests for detection, very long incubation times, etc.).

jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: January 28th, 2008 01:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
I see Reno adapting almost immediately -- behavior-wise, I think he's practically half-feral already. Tseng, after some thought, copes quite well.

Makes sense.

The group dynamic definitely won't change in an instant, but more over a period of months or years.

I think I'd be disappointed if it changed at once, although I'd expect Reno to start pushing as soon and as much as he can.

For example, the Lifestream may bear a warning about Jenova's increased activity, but Aeris and Zack would hear different versions. A nuturer Cetra's (Aeris) version being more directed to how to prevent/remedy the problem, while a feral Cetra's (Zack) version would be focused on how to deal with the problem from a defensive/offensive aspect.

Cool, and nice illustration of how the strains are the same and yet different.

Yuffie, Nanaki, and Reeve have the second version. ::evil grin:: The Change have been slowly progressing in them over the years, but with no obvious, clearcut symptoms -- again, rather like mad cow disease, but fortunately with much more beneficial results.

Oh good. Hadn't considered the possibility that the virus would change itself like that.
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