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Feral-verse - Contagion 3/? (FF7 AU, Feral-verse)
54 hisses or Hiss in my ear....
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madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: June 19th, 2007 02:12 am (UTC) (Link)
Which comes across really well in your writing and it's something I try to show in my fics too.

And I definitely see it. ::twitches guiltily for not commenting more on your fics::

Either because as far as he's concerned they're all that he's got, the only people who care about him as a person not a tool, or because transgressions against him just don't matter as far as he's concerned.

Probably the latter, I tend think. I don't picture him as being 'clingy' (i.e., putting up with wrongs primarily because of fear of loss). He'd probably be more concerned about what -he- did to cause his loved ones to act against him.

Both reasons make sense; if he doesn't know that people can care about him should he let anyone see his emotions to use as a weapon against him? And then since his mistake hurt Zack and Cloud so much he doesn't want to show his needs or feelings because that would distract from what they need.

After what happened to Cloud, Sephiroth's gone a bit obsessive and paranoid about 'imposing' on the others, especially Cloud. What he's forgotten is that in a healthy relationship, there is both give and take. When he was insane, he only took, and now he's over-reacting by doing his utmost to not 'take', even when Cloud and the others are freely offering. Silly boy.

And he's sort of lucky to have such devoted mates, willing to put the time and effort in to bring him out of his shell.

Ain't love grand? ::coos happily:: But seriously, Sephiroth wouldn't care so much about their welfare if he didn't sense that their feelings are similarly intense toward him. He wouldn't make himself so vulnerable for anything less.

I sort of used 'broken' as shorthand for severe mental/emotional trauma, but yeah, Cloud's the only one who could be classified as having a mental illness and even he's functional under most circumstances.

Ah, I see. I tend to think of 'broken' in a dom-sub, mind control sort of context. ^_^;;;

Just my opinion, but going strictly by game canon, and ignoring Advent Children she comes across as pretty much incapable of being empathic.

True. In the game, Tifa does come off as being rather absorbed in her own issues.

I don't think she has any of those moments of insight until she's been living with Cloud for four years and spent that time running a bar and raising Marlene and Denzel.

Four years? I thought AC took place two years after the game, and Feral-verse starts almost immediately after AC. O_o

I don't think that Cloud is quite so high-maintenance to love pre-game, so Tifa involved with a pre-game Cloud, or a Cloud who didn't spend four-five years at Hojo's mercy doesn't bother me so much.

I certainly agree. Although pre-Nibelheim Cloud probably has issues from his difficult childhood, such issues are probably within Tifa's ability to handle.

And Tifa in a poly relationship with post-Nibelhiem Cloud including at least one person who's more empathic than her works for me as well, like sister_coyote's Year-King, although that's an AU where Nibelheim never happened.

Tifa's is reasonably intelligent. With someone more empathic to point the way, so to speak, I can see her in a workable threesome, etc. with Cloud. However, that that sort of necessary psychological insight is not instinctive for her (especially when compared to people like Aeris and Zack) -- it required hard work and without someone to guide her (and perhaps even to compete against, in a sense), I don't see Tifa exerting herself to truly understand such a complex person like Cloud.
jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: June 19th, 2007 08:41 am (UTC) (Link)
::twitches guiltily for not commenting more on your fics::

I'm just glad to know that you read them.

I don't picture him as being 'clingy' (i.e., putting up with wrongs primarily because of fear of loss). He'd probably be more concerned about what -he- did to cause his loved ones to act against him.

Yeah, that fits. He's a bit of a control freak, so of course he'd assume it was a direct result of something he did. And being 'raised' by Hojo would certainly make him pretty self-sufficient in a lot of ways.

But seriously, Sephiroth wouldn't care so much about their welfare if he didn't sense that their feelings are similarly intense toward him. He wouldn't make himself so vulnerable for anything less.

And why should he?

Four years? I thought AC took place two years after the game, and Feral-verse starts almost immediately after AC. O_o

My mistake then. I got the timeline wrong there.

However, that that sort of necessary psychological insight is not instinctive for her (especially when compared to people like Aeris and Zack) -- it required hard work and without someone to guide her (and perhaps even to compete against, in a sense), I don't see Tifa exerting herself to truly understand such a complex person like Cloud.

Neither do I. In a lot of ways I think a Cloud-Tifa pairing post game would be a case of Cloud settling, and primarily physical, at least on his side.
54 hisses or Hiss in my ear....