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Feral-verse - Contagion 2/? (FF7 AU, Feral-verse)
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jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: May 30th, 2007 10:51 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, Sephiroth's guilt is very focused on his lovers, so while he doesn't feel much (if any guilt) with respect to what he did to humanity in general while insane, he definitely feels the guilt when it comes to Aeris, Zack, and Cloud (especially Cloud, of course).

Yes, but it's those three he's around most. And I wonder if he might feel a bit mroe guilt about SOLDIERs than about bog-standard humanity?

Fortunately, I think Aeris and Zack are up for the job. That's why I think this OT4 works so well, because dealing with Sephiroth and Cloud would be rather hard for Aeris or Zack alone. With both of them there, Aeris and Zack can support each other when things get tough.

Yes, they do work really well together, although I suspect two close pairings with a high-maintainence/low-maintenence set-up and a strong friendship would have similar benefits. But the OT4's a lot more fun to read about.

But yes, Cloud probably would feel guilty about it. But that's Cloud. ::eye-roll::

And it's one of the things Zack and Aeris love about him, right?

Sub-ferals refers to individuals who survive the physical Change, but do not successfully make the mental Change -- they have moderately enhanced physical abilities, but lose most of their higher cognitive abilities.

Cool. I'd half wondered if those were going to end up as low-level ferals, but this works much better.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: May 30th, 2007 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
And I wonder if he might feel a bit mroe guilt about SOLDIERs than about bog-standard humanity?

Probably, although it's probably a bit more on the lines of mild regret than outright guilt. And even that will be alleviated a fair bit when he offers them sanctuary when human start persecuting them for being Jenova-contaminated. It's a type of restitution for Sephiroth.

And it's one of the things Zack and Aeris love about him, right?

Indeed. Cloud's the type who wants to help/protect those he cares about, not be a burden (as he perceives it) to them.

[Sub-ferals refers to individuals who survive the physical Change, but do not successfully make the mental Change -- they have moderately enhanced physical abilities, but lose most of their higher cognitive abilities.]

Cool. I'd half wondered if those were going to end up as low-level ferals, but this works much better.


Low-level ferals have succesfully transitioned both physically and mentally, but are fairly restricted in physical enhancements. They have only a moderate level of physical and sensory boosts, and are typically limited to a single highly specific alter-form. In comparison, the high-level ferals have a very wide range of shape-shifting (along with numerous other abilities), not only in variation of alter-forms, degree of shifting, but size as well (e.g., Cid can be human-sized, dragon-sized, and anything in-between, etc.)

Sub-ferals are definitely sub-human in mental ability, but they can vary considerably in physical ability. So there can be sub-ferals who have Behemoth-like size/strength. Sub-ferals have basically degenerated into something between the usual wild beasts/monsters and extremely primitive pre-humans. Some sub-ferals do retain enough intelligence to form vicious marauding bands who prey on anything vulnerable.

So you can see that sub-ferals can be quite dangerous, especially in packs. They aren't so much a threat to ferals, but definitely to normal humans, especially if the communities do not have significant military capability.

That's why various human communities are willing to submit to feral authority, in return for protection from a variety of threats (sub-ferals, Jenova-spawn, normal monsters, human marauders, etc.). Sub-ferals avoid the core territories of powerful ferals, but they roam in the open or 'free' areas between these core territories.
jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: May 30th, 2007 02:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Probably, although it's probably a bit more on the lines of mild regret than outright guilt.

But it's still more than the humans get; I just figured Sephiroth might feel he had a bit more in common with SOLDIERs than with regular humans.

It's a type of restitution for Sephiroth.

The way trying to rescue his mates from whatever's 'controlling' them from his point of view probably started out as? And it's a pity Cloud's sense of guilt can't be alleviated that easily, even if it only works with those outside the pack for Sephiroth.

So you can see that sub-ferals can be quite dangerous, especially in packs. They aren't so much a threat to ferals, but definitely to normal humans, especially if the communities do not have significant military capability.

That's why various human communities are willing to submit to feral authority, in return for protection from a variety of threats (sub-ferals, Jenova-spawn, normal monsters, human marauders, etc.). Sub-ferals avoid the core territories of powerful ferals, but they roam in the open or 'free' areas between these core territories.


Yeah, I can see how they'd be a threat to normal humans, and I guess it would be the same principle as how most of humanity obeyed the ShinRa corporation during its heyday.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: May 30th, 2007 06:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
But it's still more than the humans get; I just figured Sephiroth might feel he had a bit more in common with SOLDIERs than with regular humans.

That's definitely true. As I mentioned in discussions about COI, my personal theory is that Sephiroth and the SOLDIERs really do experience the world differently from normal humans due to their enhancements (especially sensory). So yes, it's very likely that Sephiroth has more empathy for SOLDIERs than he would for normal humans.

And it's a pity Cloud's sense of guilt can't be alleviated that easily, even if it only works with those outside the pack for Sephiroth.

Probably because Cloud's sense of guilt is so innerly-focused -- his failures, his flaws, etc.

That's why Zack and Aeris are so important to making OT4 work -- they have the empathy to understand the severity of Cloud's and Sephiroth's issues, but they're also not over-protective, which is almost more important. They won't coddle them excessively or let them wallow over things that can't be changed. And if that means giving Cloud or Sephiroth a sharp smack (verbally or literally), Zack and Aeris are prepared to do that for their own good. ^_^
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