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Feral-verse: Contagion - prologue (FF7 AU, Feral-verse) - Convolutions of an Evil Mind
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Feral-verse: Contagion - prologue (FF7 AU, Feral-verse)
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madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 25th, 2007 09:40 am (UTC) (Link)
I thought of something else. Since you're making the feral Cetra very animalistic do the packs have a dominance hierachy the way most pack animals do, or are they all equal, and would the hierarchy be sex-based (females always dominant or females always submissive) or personality based?

Well, my liberal use of the term 'pack' is probably a misnomer. I'm really talking about mate(s), which are the pack's ruling core. Full-blown mates are generally co-equal. However, outside this ruling core group, there IS a dominance hierachy within the pack. For example, a mate primarily for breeding would have a status similar to a concubine, not a spouse.

So in the case of the OT4 of Zack, Cloud, Aeris, and Sephiroth, they are pretty much co-equal, although Aeris might be just a bit more dominant because she sure loves to boss her boys around (and they let her). ^_^ Sephiroth may be just a bit less dominant (but certainly not submissive in the classical D/S sense) because he tends to be a bit more reactive while Zack and Cloud are more proactive.

Regarding Cid and Vincent, they're also mostly co-equal mates, with Cid being a bit more dominant because he's much more comfortable with himself while Vincent tends to get a bit emo and guilt-ridden. Shera would have subordinate status as a breeder.

Regarding Yuffie, Red, and Reeve, they're pretty much co-equal, but Yuffie being a bit on bossy side, with Red and Reeve indulging her (rather like in Zack's group).

As for Rufus and the Turks, they exhibit a more typical 'pack' hierachy, with Rufus being THE dominant feral, although Reno isn't the sort to let Rufus be complacent about it. Tseng, like Sephiroth, would be a bit more passive/reactive. As for the other Turks, it all depends on if and/or how much they're affected by the feral virus, with ferals always dominant over normal humans. For example, Rude, if he goes feral, will have subordinate status because he's Reno's mate (not Rufus's), but if he stays human, he's Reno' pet. ^_- Elena or the other female Turks, if they go feral, probably are subordinate breeders with middle-level status, depending how much they're in favor with Rufus.

The main points (at the moment) are these:
(1) going feral (almost) never affects one's emotional attachments, although it may affect how one reacts to that emotional bond;
(2) dominance is primarily personality-based;
(3) ferals are always dominant over non-ferals.

Does that answer your question? ^_^;;;
jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: April 25th, 2007 09:58 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, pretty much. And it's pretty close to how I saw it as well, at least for the packs I'd considered. I hadn't considered the Yuffie/Reeve/Red pack, but I did expect Rufus to be dominant with the Turks, and Aeris dominant with the OT4 if anyone was. I also expected Sephiroth to be the most 'submissive' of the OT4 pack, although I'd figured that would be more because he feels a bit guilty about his 'weakness' in letting Jenova take over so easily, and that would make him more...easy to persuade or talk into things than Zack and Cloud would be.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 25th, 2007 10:13 am (UTC) (Link)
I also expected Sephiroth to be the most 'submissive' of the OT4 pack, although I'd figured that would be more because he feels a bit guilty about his 'weakness' in letting Jenova take over so easily, and that would make him more...easy to persuade or talk into things than Zack and Cloud would be.

Part of that passiveness is probably guilt, but I also think that a large part of it is his severe lack of socialization.Sephiroth tends to look to Cloud and Zack to give him clues and context for appropriate responses to non-combat and non-military situations.

Oddly, I think his fall under Jenova's influence would make him more stubborn and resistant in the present situation. He knows that Zack (and later Cloud) are behaving strangely and differently, which (from his own experience) makes him very uneasy and suspicious. It may take the other three ganging up on poor Seph to 'persuade' him that going feral is not so bad and is actually a hell of a lot of fun. ::evil grin::
jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: April 25th, 2007 10:43 am (UTC) (Link)
Part of that passiveness is probably guilt, but I also think that a large part of it is his severe lack of socialization.

True, I only remembered that after I posted my comment, but I still think guilt would play a part in his behaviour.

Oddly, I think his fall under Jenova's influence would make him more stubborn and resistant in the present situation. He knows that Zack (and later Cloud) are behaving strangely and differently, which (from his own experience) makes him very uneasy and suspicious.

I think that would depend on whether he cares more about protecting the humans who've rejected him so thoroughly, or on the acceptance of the people he loves. I think you see Sephiroth as less selfish than I do, because I'd think once he was convinced it was Aeris, Zack and Cloud there he'd happily let humanity go hang.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 25th, 2007 11:03 am (UTC) (Link)
I think that would depend on whether he cares more about protecting the humans who've rejected him so thoroughly, or on the acceptance of the people he loves. I think you see Sephiroth as less selfish than I do, because I'd think once he was convinced it was Aeris, Zack and Cloud there he'd happily let humanity go hang.

Oh, I agree with you. Sephiroth really doesn't give a damn about humanity in general. And as you pointed out, if Aeris, Zack, and Cloud want to take over and prey on the world, that's perfectly fine with him... -IF- they're doing it of their own free will.

It's the convincing him that they're acting freely, of their own initiative that will be hard part, because Sephiroth absolutely abhors the idea that his lovers being used as puppets by some unknown force or entity, just as he was. From his own experience with Jenova, he knows how insidious that sort of mind control can be. Unfortunately, Zack's major freakout in the prologue is going to leave Sephiroth with a really bad first impression of the whole feral thing. ::sweatdrop::
jessara40k From: jessara40k Date: April 25th, 2007 11:25 am (UTC) (Link)
It's the convincing him that they're acting freely, of their own initiative that will be hard part, because Sephiroth absolutely abhors the idea that his lovers being used as puppets by some unknown force or entity, just as he was. From his own experience with Jenova, he knows how insidious that sort of mind control can be. Unfortunately, Zack's major freakout in the prologue is going to leave Sephiroth with a really bad first impression of the whole feral thing.

Ah yes, I can see what you mean now, but I still feel that once he actually transforms to feral form Sephiroth would be easier to sway to his lovers' way of thinking than the other way around. I'd think Cloud would claim Tifa and the kids as pets, or at least it might be a possibility.
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