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Convolutions of an Evil Mind
COI - the continuing evolution of the Great Nibelheim Plotbunny! (i.e., yet more retconning)
30 hisses or Hiss in my ear....
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 14th, 2007 08:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
Your discussions of your universe just get to me. Part of what I love about stories and story telling is figuring out how everything and everyone fits together. I just eat up your brainstorm posts like candy. So I just couldn't resist commenting on this one.

Thanks for saying something. Although it's a bit scary how obsessive I get about COIverse world-building. ::massive sweatdrop::

I mean, here I'm doing research on inheritance law because COI-Cloud's situation as President Shinra's bastard child, especially since Rufus is presumed dead. Depending on how Present Shinra wrote his will, Cloud actually could get a substantial portion of President Shinra's personal wealth (even if he doesn't get the corporation-related assets).

Not that I don't like this idea I'm fine with it, but I thought I would point out that I don't think you really need to change them not being friends before hand if you don't want them to be. Obviously you'd still need to tweak it some, but with how much Cloud wants to be a Solider, he couldn't of not become aware of Zack. It is possible to deeply admire, respect someone and even want to protect someone with out really knowing them. Especially someone like the Zack in your stories. Let's face it Zack is very charismatic and a representation of what Cloud asperations and dreams.

Sorry if I confused you when I mentioned revamping Zack and Cloud's relationship. You see, in the original version of COI, Zack didn't know Cloud at all prior to Nibelheim. The retconning comes in by having Zack and Cloud run into each other on several occasions prior to Nibelheim.

I'm probably going to make them into casual acquaintances and not really friends. However, even the relatively trival consideration of being recognized and greeted, of being thanked, etc. on Zack's part makes a tremendous impression on Cloud, given the pretty horrible way he's been treated up to this point.

So then you have Zack dying at Cloud's(Strifes's) own hands which pretty much put the final nail in the coffin of Cloud's hopes and dreams if he had any left.

So true. Cloud failed once with Tifa when they were children. But this time is infinitely worse because he's the threat and causing the harm.

he could definitely step up to the plate for Zack. I can even see that in his mind he's protecting Zack from everything that's happened in his life.

That's quite true. At this point, Cloud is really not capable of coherent thought so he's operating on pure instinct. Deeply buried under all those emotional scars is a person with very strong protective instincts. Growing up, Cloud probably desperately wanted to be a hero who protects, but those dreams were brutally crushed.

So now he's trying to find redemption by protecting Zack from insane!Sephiroth, regardless of the cost to himself. ::sniffle::

The whole friend/acquaintances things works as well for me, but I thought I'd throw this twist on the problem out for you to chew on as well. Sorry if it seems a bit disjointed and wordy.

No, it makes perfect sense. As I mentioned before, Cloud is so emotionally deprived and socially harassed, just being treated with mere common courtesy has a huge impact on Cloud. As for Zack, he's just being Zack -- friendly, outgoing, and personable. Unfortunately, Cloud's past makes him almost impossibly skittish, insecure, and difficult to befriend. And Zack has his hands full with other concerns (i.e., Sephiroth, the SOLDIERs, Hojo, and possibly even Aeris).
30 hisses or Hiss in my ear....