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Contemplating Cetra genes...
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kittychan1986 From: kittychan1986 Date: March 7th, 2007 03:47 am (UTC) (Link)
So, I agree with Zack's definitely. Seph’s most probably. (I would actually give Seph something to do with healing. If you look at the character, it makes sense. It's just twisted and warped by his experiences) And I think the potential for saddling Rufus with the Protect/heal adds a very funny wrinkle to him.

I actually was thinking more about Lu in this, than Hojo or Vince. I would actually call her Gene Combo Compel/Command. As it's completely unconscious and/or hard to control, the fact that she made Vince follow her with that degree of fanaticism, and even managed to attract Hojo's attention. And probably had the same sort of effect on Gast as well. I don't know if I'd call it compel or Seduction, but she's got something that makes her almost irresistible to the men around her. And giving Hojo the command ability, and assuming that Command genes cannot work against one another (As seen by the fact that Seph couldn't make Hojo blow his brains out.)

I would give Vince an Attack/Heal combo with that. Vincent has this thing about wanting to fix people, and taking their blame upon himself. We don't know if the shape shifting thing was inherent to him, or if it's a genome that Hojo hardwired into his. So Vincent could technically have a three part set.

Hojo I'd give a double dose of command, it's the only way he could have kept something as intensely violent as Seph under control.

Cloud, I'd actually be mean to. I'd think that the Cetra would have some sort of 'Notice me not, I'm not important' Gene, which explains why Aeris was able to hide like she did. I'd give him an attack/notice-me-not. Only with Cloud, who focused on so much Negative in his childhood and young adult hood, this now projects the negative, reinforced self image he has of himself.

Reno I would give a protect/attack combo. it works for him. He wants desperately to protect his comrades and his family. He's also insanely strong.

Tseng, Strangely enough, I would give a bind/protect combo. He, like Zack, attracts a certain degree of almost blind faith. He's just fairly selective about it. He's also protective, but also picky about whom that sphere extends to.

I would give Reeve one gene, not two, and that would be protect. Or maybe a double dose of protect.

Cid doesn't need one, but if there were any special skill regarding flying or float, Cid would have it.

The compel gene is one that several people could use. If you ever notice how some people can innately make the atmosphere in a room change. I might give that one to Savios. Or to Zack.

It’s a very interesting thread to start, Madam. Very interesting.


madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: March 7th, 2007 10:16 am (UTC) (Link)
So, I agree with Zack's definitely. Seph’s most probably. (I would actually give Seph something to do with healing. If you look at the character, it makes sense. It's just twisted and warped by his experiences)

Well, with Sephiroth, with his wacky messed up genes, he could have more than two active gene sets, so he could have Heal as a tertiary gene. ::ponder::

And I think the potential for saddling Rufus with the Protect/heal adds a very funny wrinkle to him.

Yes, that would be evil of me. ::cackle::

I actually was thinking more about Lu in this, than Hojo or Vince. I would actually call her Gene Combo Compel/Command. As it's completely unconscious and/or hard to control, the fact that she made Vince follow her with that degree of fanaticism, and even managed to attract Hojo's attention. And probably had the same sort of effect on Gast as well. I don't know if I'd call it compel or Seduction, but she's got something that makes her almost irresistible to the men around her. And giving Hojo the command ability, and assuming that Command genes cannot work against one another

I have to say that I'm not that thrilled with Lucrecia's characterization in DoC. -_- But I can see your point about her. However, I'm reserving Command as a very rare gene, because it represents various abilities which enables the person to forcibly override another's will. Therefore, the aspect of 'compel' is completely encompassed by command. Which means that Rufus probably won't have it. ::ponder::

(As seen by the fact that Seph couldn't make Hojo blow his brains out.)

::blink:: When did this happen? And there's a good reason why the current COI-Sephiroth can't control others at the moment -- he's sane and therefore is mostly unaware of the ability and is not accessing his full genetic potential (including both Cetra genes and Jenova-CORE cells).

However, in view of your comments, I can see Lucrecia and Hojo having a lower level gene version of Command -- something like Persuade. I don't think 'compel' fits because they can't force another to obey them.

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madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: March 7th, 2007 10:16 am (UTC) (Link)
I would give Vince an Attack/Heal combo with that. Vincent has this thing about wanting to fix people, and taking their blame upon himself. We don't know if the shape shifting thing was inherent to him, or if it's a genome that Hojo hardwired into his. So Vincent could technically have a three part set.

Cetra genes are not just about the tendency or desire to behave in certain ways, the genes provide the actual abilities to carry out those behaviorial tendencies. Therefore, the mere desire to fix people, etc., is not the same as actually having the ability or potential to do it. Aeris clearly has both the desire to heal AND the abilities which enable her to heal.

Similarly, the mere desire to dominate and control others does not mean that the individual has the Cetra-type abilities to do so.

Hojo I'd give a double dose of command, it's the only way he could have kept something as intensely violent as Seph under control.

There's no indication that Hojo used anything except physical and mental intimidation to keep Sephiroth under control when he was young. Therefore, Hojo didn't 'compel' Sephiroth's obedience in the 'mind control' sense of the term. However, if we give Hojo the Persuade gene, then it's perfectly plausible that Hojo could convince Sephiroth to submit to his authority.

Cloud, I'd actually be mean to. I'd think that the Cetra would have some sort of 'Notice me not, I'm not important' Gene, which explains why Aeris was able to hide like she did. I'd give him an attack/notice-me-not. Only with Cloud, who focused on so much Negative in his childhood and young adult hood, this now projects the negative, reinforced self image he has of himself.

I'm definitely considering giving Cloud doubled combat genes. But something like Veil is a possible tertiary gene. ^_^

Reno I would give a protect/attack combo. it works for him. He wants desperately to protect his comrades and his family. He's also insanely strong.

The possession of multiple Cetra genes should be rare, so Reno probably would have only one high-level combat-type gene, or possibly only a generic lower level combat-type gene.

Tseng, Strangely enough, I would give a bind/protect combo. He, like Zack, attracts a certain degree of almost blind faith. He's just fairly selective about it. He's also protective, but also picky about whom that sphere extends to.

That sounds like a plausible combo for Tseng, but I would give him a lower level equivalent of Bind. Or he can have Persuade.

I would give Reeve one gene, not two, and that would be protect. Or maybe a double dose of protect.

Well, since Cetra genes are about both desire AND ability, I would personally give Reeve an intelligence-related gene. Create would sound like a good possibility.

Cid doesn't need one, but if there were any special skill regarding flying or float, Cid would have it.

Possibly a lower level gene. ::ponder::

The compel gene is one that several people could use. If you ever notice how some people can innately make the atmosphere in a room change. I might give that one to Savios. Or to Zack.

As I said before, people like Lucrecia and Hojo probably have something lower-level like Persuade because they CAN'T actually force people to obey them. Zack's Bind, being a high level gene, already encompasses Persuade.

As for Savois... that's a secret. ^_-

It’s a very interesting thread to start, Madam. Very interesting.

Thanks! ^_^
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