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Convolutions of an Evil Mind
COI - Zack, dark and dangerous
39 hisses or Hiss in my ear....
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 11th, 2005 11:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sephiroth's birth could very well a fluke, a sort of genetic jackpot. Certainly, Hojo couldn't duplicate Sephiroth's creation (i.e., Project B in COI), even with repeated attempts.

While Hojo had direct custody over Sephiroth, he probably had little interest in trying to create another Sephiroth. However, when Sephiroth escaped Hojo's direct control (by joining Shinra's military), Hojo probably started exploring the idea of making another Sephiroth, which is much easier said than done. Presumably, this is when Hojo started up Project A, which was direct cloning from Sephiroth's cells. It was only after Sephiroth 'died' in the Nibelheim reactor, Hojo really started work on Project B (modification of human fetuses before birth).

Vincent is no doubt wallowing in guilt because he sleep through all this, unaware of Hojo's horrific research. ^_^;;

I don't think Zack is unbelievably strong so much as that in his pain he focused on something external to his own suffering.

Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this subject. ^_- In some ways, Zack's situation is more like a prisoner-of-war than experimental subject. In that respect, the scientists are the enemy and it seems quite plausible (to me, at least) that as his confinement continued, Zack's anger at the 'enemy' would continued to intensify. Certainly, the more he learns of their activities (i.e., through Hojo's boasts, etc.), the more reason Zack has to hate them.

That is, he focused on Cloud to the exclusion of all else, it is always better to take care of someone than to dwell on one's own pain. And as such I belief that Cloud was as much as Zack's life line as Zack was Cloud's. Mutual survival, it is just that they dealt with it in complete different way.

Uhhhh... no. I'm afraid not. ::massive sweatdrop:: Considering all the experimentation carried out on Cloud, it's unlikely that Zack really saw Cloud much for a substantial part of their confinement. And when he did eventually see Cloud, Cloud was pretty much out of his mind by then.

So, as COI is currently plotted (although this is subject to change), Zack and Cloud weren't really that close as friends. If Zack felt anything for Cloud, it would probably mostly pity because of the hell the scientists were putting the poor kid through.

So why would Zack go through so much trouble to escape with Cloud? I'm sorry to say but it wasn't necessarily altrusism, at least in the beginning. What if Zack learned or suspected that Cloud was the focus of some special research -- something big, even if Zack didn't know the exact details. That would be enough to get him interested in Cloud at the beginning. And if Cloud is so important to those scientists he hates so much, then that is pretty good reason to steal their prize specimen, right?

But perhaps as Zack spent more time with Cloud, he did indeed start to feel sympathy and comraderie with Cloud. So even if he first had his own selfish reasons for escaping with Cloud, by the time of the actual escape, Zack really did care what happened to Cloud.

Ah, but remember that Cloud's mind is steadily being taken over by Zack's personality. So at least on some level, Cloud was painfully aware (however dimly) that Zack wasn't really interested in helping him of pure friendship. A part of him (you can guess which part!) deeply resented that while another part of Cloud is willing to accept whatever kindness he could get, even if motivated by pity or some ulterior motive. And given his usual easy-going temperment, Zack tends to be quite friendly, nice, and supportive, unless he had good reason not to be.

I'm not trying to make Zack a bad or unsympathetic person -- it's just that his loyalties lay pretty much entirely with Sephiroth and he did whatever it took to take care of Sephiroth's interests and welfare. But with Sephiroth dead (as far as he knows), Zack is now simply taking care of his own interests.

39 hisses or Hiss in my ear....