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Attack of the Evil-OT4-plotbunnies... (aka the birth of the Feral-verse) - Convolutions of an Evil Mind
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Attack of the Evil-OT4-plotbunnies... (aka the birth of the Feral-verse)
And when I say 'evil-OT4-plotbunnies', I don't mean 'being evil to OT4'. I mean 'OT4 being evil'. Or at least evil-ish.

Thanks to icedark_elf's fic "Confused", thoughts of demony!Zack and demony!Cloud have taken up residence in my brain and stubbornly refuse to go away, damn it!

EDIT: I forgot to mention that icedark_elf's fic "Ravens" also provided fodder for the plotbunnies, so she's DOUBLY to blame for this insanity! :P

Evil-OT4? How can that be, you ask? ^_-

Well, here's an example of one of the evil-OT4-plotbunnies now happily breeding inside my heads....

Let's say that Sephiroth goes crazy at Nibelheim, just as in the game. However, during the fight in the Nibel Reactor, something dire, feral, and parasitic (but non-Jenova) gets released and infects both Zack and Cloud. Sephiroth doesn't get infected because he gets thrown (or jumps) into the Lifestream. Let's assume that Hojo conveniently doesn't know about said parasites. Zack and Cloud get experimented on by Hojo as per the game, but unknown to everyone, the parasites, while dormant, are busily incubating inside them. Eventually, Zack and Cloud escape, but after their escape, the parasites become active and they transform into incredibly powerful psychotic variants of themselves.

So now we have psycho!feral!Zack with gorgeous black wings and psycho!feral!Cloud with equally gorgeous gold wings, who are: (1) pissed off at the world in general and Shinra (and Hojo) in particular; and (2) are looking for their other two lost mates (i.e., Sephiroth and Aeris), whom they intend to infect so they can become one big happy psycho!feral!OT4 pack preying on puny humanity. Whee!

One possible result of all this is that Aeris somehow finds out about what's happened to Zack and Cloud and wants to save both them and humanity. She somehow hooks up with AVALANCHE (obviously sans Cloud) and it all becomes a desperate race to find and awaken Sephiroth before Zack and Cloud can find and bring him over to the 'dark side'. Another interesting consequence is that AVALANCHE and Shinra could end up joining forces in order to protect Aeris and keep both her and Sephiroth out of the grasp of psycho!feral!Zack and psycho!feral!Cloud.

Hell, it's even possible that Jenova joins forces with AVALANCHE and Shinra (Jenova, because this new parasite is a dangerous competitor who's trying to steal her 'children' -- Sephiroth, Zack, and Cloud -- away from her), although Jenova would definitely be a rather untrustworthy ally.

Of course, this assumes that Aeris wants to stop Zack and Cloud. But what if she doesn't? What if she just wants to be with her loved ones, regardless of the circumstances. In which case, Shinra and/or AVALANCHE will be trying to keep her from joining or assisting Zack and Cloud.

The same question applies to Sephiroth. If/when he wakes up, would he want to stop Zack and Cloud (either of his own free will or on Jenova's prodding), or would he want to join them?

Or if we want the game events to take place as normal, we can have the parasites dormant until after the Meteor incident, in which case, psycho!feral!Zack appears and tracks down Cloud, who either transforms immediately or gradually (wonderful chance for some Cloud-torture here!). In which case, psycho!Zack (with or without Cloud's help) will be trying to pry Sephiroth and Aeris out of the Lifestream....

Damn it!!! Just look at those evil-evil-OT4-plotbunnies multiplying!

Ummmm... reality check here. Has anyone heard or read of a plot like this? ::massive sweatdrop:: Because if they have, let me know and I'll stuff these guys away in a drawer somewhere.

On the other hand.... wouldn't it be great if psycho!Zack and psycho!Cloud succeeded? ^_^ Then we'd have a gorgeous, predatory OT4 pack with:
(1) Zack, with black feathered wings and a lupine alter-form
(2) Cloud, with gold feathered wings and an avian alter-form
(3) Sephiroth, with silver feathered wings and a feline alter-form
(4) last, but certainly not least, Aeris, their beloved bitch queen! (EDIT: perhaps she gets a flora-based alter-form, an idea sparked by ladynero's crackfic.)

Let humanity and the Planet quake and shiver in terror!

::slithers away, cackling madly::




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MASSIVE EDIT / ADDITION:
Spawned by forgottenlover's and mimi_sardinia's comments.


I had been assuming that this parasite was just some unknown alien critter. But what if it wasn't? What if this parasite is Cetra-based? This would be a good explanation for its presence in Nibelheim and Hojo's/Shinra's ignorance of its existance. Also, it provides a perfect explanation for its seductive pull on Aeris and others. ::gleeglee::

What if it was a weapon created by the Cetra to battle Jenova, but for whatever reasons, was never deployed or activated?

Or better yet, what if it was the Cetra's dirty ancestral secret, their skeleton in the closet? What if long, long time ago, the Cetra were predators and/or parasites just like Jenova, infecting and preying on worlds. But somewhere along the way, the Cetra turned their backs on their bloody past and started to nuture worlds, perhaps to make up for their past sins. But unknown to the Cetra, they hadn't escaped their dirty secret -- it had merely gone dormant and they were unknowingly carrying it with them wherever they went.

But now this ancestral or true Cetra parasite (or form) is now active and is reverting to its normal predatory habits. Here's a nice tasty planet, only there's this annoying competitor (Jenova) lurking around. And even worse, this competitor has the NERVE to infect some of its own. Well, the Centra parasite isn't about to let that go on, which would explain why Zack (and Cloud) are hunting for Aeris. Not just because she's their mate, or that she's a breeder, but she can help cleanse that foul Jenova-stuff from her mates (or subvert it to serve Cetra interests). ^___^

Sooo.... what would happen if others (especially AVALANCHE) got infected?

Vincent - doesn't really need any changes. In fact, infection by the Cetra parasite is a perfect explanation for his transformations and powers ::beams:: Only no one realizes it... until it's too late.

Cid - becomes a winged draconic creature, of course! Even better if he can becomes a sky-space dragon. Bahamut Zero, anyone?

Yuffie - becomes a serpent-like draconic creature (like Leviathan). Alternatively, something that reflects her ninja abilities, perhaps some sort of shadow creature?

Reeve - remaining superficially human in appearance, but some sort of cyberpathic entity, controlling technology with will and thoughts alone. On the other hand, he can now switch freely between different bodies and/or inhabit multiple bodies simultaneously.

Nanaki - instead of developing demonic/beast traits, he develops humanoid traits (e.g., becoming bipedal, opposible hands, etc.)

Rufus - not sure, but I picture him remaining superficially human in appearance, but perhaps he becomes a creature-master in abilities? (thinks about Dark Nation) as a gold, nine-tailed fox, with some of the other Turks (e.g., Reno, Tseng, etc.) being other sorts of foxes.

Barret - a big hulking burrowing creature (e.g., badger or wolverine)
Tifa - ???

Actually, I'm inclined to have Tifa (and Barret) remain uninfected and human. Yes, I'm evil to her that way, making her watch and futilely struggle as all her teammates get converted. It would be no fun if no one was around to angst about it. ::cackle::

Really, I'm so bad. ::heads droop in mock-shame::
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And yet MORE additions:
Again spawned by mimi_sardinia, who's being particularly evil to me.


mimi_sardinia proposed an interesting variation of the ancestral Cetra virus theory here. What if there were two strains of this ancestral Cetra virus -- a pacifistic, nurturing variant strain (embodied by Aeris) and an aggressive, predatory 'true' strain (infecting Zack, Cloud, Vincent, etc.)? The bearers of the strains are still drawn to each other, but Aeris would be understandably disturbed by this 'dark/feral' aspect that Zack and Cloud are showing.

Also, I realized that this particular plotbunny (or plot chocobo) can work AFTER the events of "Advent Children". It's possible that the elimination of the Geostigma helps to trigger the awakening of the ancestral Cetra virus/parasite. Due to his prior infection, Zack's spirit gets pulled out of the Lifestream, back into his infected body. However, Aeris's original body is somewhere in the waters around the City of Ancients, and Sephiroth's body is who-knows-where.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Red XIII's long-lived race has some critical information about this previously unknown feral-Cetra strain? ::eyebrow waggle::

Okay, I'm giving this plotbunny the working name of "Feral-verse", at least for now. ^_^;;

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icedark_elf From: icedark_elf Date: April 23rd, 2007 02:09 am (UTC) (Link)
*cackles* Spread, bunnies, spread!

*hugs her Raven fic and glees* My Thirtyforthree claim seems to be definitely heading that way.

Yay, insane people for all!
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 23rd, 2007 02:14 am (UTC) (Link)
Ack! That's right! You wrote that fic, too!

Damn it! This is ALL YOUR FAULT!!! ::howl::
bard_linn From: bard_linn Date: April 23rd, 2007 02:14 am (UTC) (Link)
*amused as heck*

Repeat after me. "It's all Icedark's fault. It's all Icedark's fault."
icedark_elf From: icedark_elf Date: April 23rd, 2007 02:15 am (UTC) (Link)
Shush you.
forgottenlover From: forgottenlover Date: April 23rd, 2007 05:22 am (UTC) (Link)
::eyes the orgy of comments above:: You have my blessing in blaming the Ice ::nods:: And I haven't seen a plot like this one before myself, which is cool I think

Though I'm all 'I vote for the parasite going after Jenova once it realizes that one of the feral!person's mates is being inhabited by a competitor that's not native.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 23rd, 2007 12:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
You have my blessing in blaming the Ice

Let's all pile on Icedark! ::pounce::

And I haven't seen a plot like this one before myself, which is cool I think

That's a relief. When these massive plotbunnies bite me, I always worry that I'm rehashing a fic that I've read and semi-forgotten about. -_-

Though I'm all 'I vote for the parasite going after Jenova once it realizes that one of the feral!person's mates is being inhabited by a competitor that's not native.

::points to the new "MASSIVE EDIT / ADDITION" to her original post::

Here. You can have a nice helping of blame, too. :D
wanderingscroll From: wanderingscroll Date: April 23rd, 2007 05:32 am (UTC) (Link)
Wow, you're bunny hutch must be huge!

One little thing though, considering that we're talking about Aeris here, do you really think that once she's got her hands on them that she'd really let p!f!Zack and p!f!Cloud actually go on those kinds of rampages?

Well, at least non-Hojo-killing/Shinra-destroying ones anyway.
mimi_sardinia From: mimi_sardinia Date: April 23rd, 2007 06:02 am (UTC) (Link)
Oooh! Controlling bitchqueen! And given her cetra abilities, she'd probably whip them into her personal pair of Defenders Of The Planet too - because it's her planet and humans are hurting it!

Now just to kick that space virus out of her third mate, then she can "discipline" humanity...
__perplexity__ From: __perplexity__ Date: April 23rd, 2007 01:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh right, so you think it's SMART detailing what Teh Evil OT4 would look like (complete with alter-forms) when someone is completing final art coursework. You think it's FUNNY do you, giving someone the want need BURNING DESIRE to sketch them out in all their menacing glory!??

Oh feel the wrath. As much as I love you in your Hydra-y goodness, i really do hate you too. If they come out ok I might have to take photos of them to show you (GAH no scanner).
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 23rd, 2007 03:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh right, so you think it's SMART detailing what Teh Evil OT4 would look like (complete with alter-forms) when someone is completing final art coursework. You think it's FUNNY do you, giving someone the want need BURNING DESIRE to sketch them out in all their menacing glory!??

Perhaps not smart, perhaps not funny, but darn evil of me, eh? ::gringringrin::

Oh feel the wrath. As much as I love you in your Hydra-y goodness, i really do hate you too. If they come out ok I might have to take photos of them to show you (GAH no scanner).

::sniffle:: But I'll manage to bear your hatred, as long as there's the possibility of getting shinies out of you. ::snerk::
chofi From: chofi Date: April 23rd, 2007 01:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, did anyone else read all of this an immediately ping this picture from Garakuta? Anyone? Buller?
mimi_sardinia From: mimi_sardinia Date: April 23rd, 2007 02:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
LOL XD
soloyuymaxwell From: soloyuymaxwell Date: April 23rd, 2007 04:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
-Desperately claws her way towards the computer in an effort to ignore her workplace- I've been trying to respond to this all morning... =_= Well, here goes...

Yesh, being the faithful fanslut of your work that I am, I must say that I'm quite pleased with what your plotbunnies have created. Their "Metropolis" (as you put it) must prosper in literature. ^^ My plotfoxies are only at the "spare mansion" stage. -sweatdrop-

Umm... I don't think I've heard of that idea before, but it sounds pretty cool. I know I deffinately wouldn't have been able to come up with that on my own. ^^; -Steals a co-worker's cookie and gives- Robert makes the best cookies. ^^ He'll make a nice wife one day. ^^

What of the Turks? How do you think Reno, Elena, Tseng, and Rude come into play? ^^ Will they also join Shinra? As for torturing Tifa... MWAHAHAHA! -LuvLuvLuv- Despair, you big-breasted beast! -Cackles-

Ooo! o_o I just thought of something! Have you ever read any of the Anita Blake Vampire hunter novels? A Vampire Master by the name of Jean-Claude, and another named Asher, say that their master, a part of the vampire council, liked beautiful men... And when she turned you into one of her line, then they had to at least be bi. Reason - Because when she wasn't screwing them, she liked watching them screw each other. =^^= Perhaps you could graph a bit of that onto those four? Then again... -_- It could just be my overactive fangirlism kicking in once more. XP

Well, anyway... -Grabs a handful of tail-level-nine plotfoxies and stuffs them in her bag- I better get to work if I wanna finish that fic of mine by thursday... -Hides all evidence that she'll be 23 on that day and goes to wreck havoc on her co-workers for the rest of her work hour-
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 23rd, 2007 04:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yesh, being the faithful fanslut of your work that I am, I must say that I'm quite pleased with what your plotbunnies have created.

For that, you get nekkid Seph, Zack, and Cloud cookies.

Their "Metropolis" (as you put it) must prosper in literature. ^^ My plotfoxies are only at the "spare mansion" stage. -sweatdrop-

Plotbunny gang wars are no fun, especially when they're fighting over who gets writing time. The FF7-bunnies teamed up together to take over the city, but now in-fighting is starting.

::pulls out microphone and earpiece:: "I'm reporting live from the scene! At this very moment, the COI-bunnies and the evil-OT4-bunnies (aka feral-Cetra-bunnies) are locked in a hostile staring match, and the situation may degenerate at any moment! The police are nowhere to be seen! Things could get very ugly!"

Umm... I don't think I've heard of that idea before, but it sounds pretty cool.

Well, that's a relief. It's very depressing to invest a lot of creative energy into developing an idea, only to find out that someone else has done something very similar. It's even more depressive if that other person does it extremely well. ::sigh::

I will admit that I might be semi-plagarizing from myself, because I'm borrowing various ideas I developed for COI and using them in this plot. ^_-

What of the Turks? How do you think Reno, Elena, Tseng, and Rude come into play? ^^ Will they also join Shinra?

The Turks are around, but they're going to have to cope with Rufus. Borrowing the 'related to Cloud' theme from COI, Rufus is a prime candidate to be infected by the Cetra virus, although no one is aware of the danger (at first). If Rufus goes feral, he will probably consider his pack to be the Turks, even if most of them are normal humans. ^_-

As for torturing Tifa... MWAHAHAHA! -LuvLuvLuv- Despair, you big-breasted beast! -Cackles-

Poor girl, surely she deserves SOME sympathy for what she's about to go through! She's not in danger of losing Cloud, but most of her other friends in AVALANCHE! ^_-

Ooo! o_o I just thought of something! Have you ever read any of the Anita Blake Vampire hunter novels? A Vampire Master by the name of Jean-Claude, and another named Asher, say that their master, a part of the vampire council, liked beautiful men... And when she turned you into one of her line, then they had to at least be bi. Reason - Because when she wasn't screwing them, she liked watching them screw each other. =^^= Perhaps you could graph a bit of that onto those four? Then again... -_- It could just be my overactive fangirlism kicking in once more. XP

Actually, this feral-Cetra-virus plotbunny is based on OT4 -- yes, that means a foursome in which Sephiroth, Zack, Cloud, and Aeris are all mutual lovers and happily boinking each other (or at least they were, until Jenova and Hojo interfered. Boo! Hiss!) is a fundamental premise of this plot.

So in this plotbunny, one of the main themes is that feral!Zack and feral!Cloud want to get their lost lovers (Aeris and Seph) back together again.
nemi_chan From: nemi_chan Date: April 24th, 2007 07:08 am (UTC) (Link)

well...

Cetra based virus sounds very good. Point in fact it could be WHY the boys got infected with it: They were 'primed' for it, or even originally infected, by Aeris.

If you go with the split theory on the Parasite, one nurturing one scary feral aggressive, it makes sense. One to take care of the food supply, one to defend it, but as the Cetra matured they decided they didn't need the Feral!Strain anymore (because they over ate and then everyone had to move) so they became less common (or were locked away), making way for Jenova to come and steal their planet away for the dinner table.

Nanaki/Red XII connection...Well, Hojo DID put him, when he appeared a violent monster, in a cage with Aeris, unrestrained. Maybe his species has some of the original Feral!Strain in them? And Hojo had an inkling of the connection to risk such valuable specimens?
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 25th, 2007 01:44 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: well...

Cetra based virus sounds very good. Point in fact it could be WHY the boys got infected with it: They were 'primed' for it, or even originally infected, by Aeris.

I think Zack, Cloud, and certain others were 'primed' for infection and transformation by the virus because they have compatible genes passed down through many generations of Cetra-human interbreeding. The pacifist strain that Aeris is non-aggressive -- it can be inherited genetically, but it doesn't infect like the much more aggressive feral strain.

If you go with the split theory on the Parasite, one nurturing one scary feral aggressive, it makes sense. One to take care of the food supply, one to defend it, but as the Cetra matured they decided they didn't need the Feral!Strain anymore (because they over ate and then everyone had to move) so they became less common (or were locked away), making way for Jenova to come and steal their planet away for the dinner table.

Well, the Feral-verse view is that the feral form is the original, dominant virus/parasite strain. Unfortunately, for whatever reasons, the Cetra began developing a moral conscience, which made them reject their predatory impulses. Unfortunately, the new pacifist Cetra was easy pickings for Jenova. Boo! Hiss!

Nanaki/Red XII connection...Well, Hojo DID put him, when he appeared a violent monster, in a cage with Aeris, unrestrained. Maybe his species has some of the original Feral!Strain in them?

Hmmm... I don't think so, although it's possible that there's a third virus strain that mutated and branched off in long distant ancient times, resulting in Red's race. But it's equally likely that his species had always existed on the Planet.

And Hojo had an inkling of the connection to risk such valuable specimens?

Nope, Hojo didn't have a clue about the whole Cetra virus thing. It could be that Red, although hiding his intelligence, wasn't behaving aggressively, so Hojo decided to risk putting Red and Aeris together. We also don't know what sort of security precautions and/or monitoring was going on, so it could be that Hojo had the means to separate them if something bad happened. ::shrug::
askaram27 From: askaram27 Date: April 25th, 2007 12:50 am (UTC) (Link)
Dude, this idea is so awesome.

In any case, we've all been operating under the assumption that the Cetra are all like Aeris and Ifalna. What if that wasn't the case? I mean, humans are depowered Cetra and we know what a bunch of idiots they can be. It could be that the Cetra were vicous, warlike people who constantly fought and killed each other (you could even make it so the lost-ago Cetra wars were a way to add glory to the Planet) until they finally whacked each other too much, and had to turn into nice people in order to keep their species alive. The resulting lack of aggression and cessation of the feral!Cetra powers could even be what caused the Cetra to turn into normal people.

Hmm, interesting idea there. If you don't use it, I will. Not for the OT4, but something else for sure.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: April 25th, 2007 01:32 am (UTC) (Link)
In any case, we've all been operating under the assumption that the Cetra are all like Aeris and Ifalna. What if that wasn't the case?

That's always been a possibility. We know so little about the Cetra and admittedly, Ifalna's and Aeris's POV can be a bit skewed by pure ignorance.

I mean, humans are depowered Cetra and we know what a bunch of idiots they can be. It could be that the Cetra were vicous, warlike people who constantly fought and killed each other (you could even make it so the lost-ago Cetra wars were a way to add glory to the Planet) until they finally whacked each other too much, and had to turn into nice people in order to keep their species alive. The resulting lack of aggression and cessation of the feral!Cetra powers could even be what caused the Cetra to turn into normal people.

Well, the current theory for the Feral-verse is that the original Cetra were a hyper-predatory virus, much like Jenova, which started to infect humanity many eons ago. Somewhere along the line, the Cetra tried to reject or repress the feral aspects of their nature and turned to nurturing worlds instead of preying on them. However, the 'true' (i.e., feral) Cetra virus strain is still around and is becoming active again.

Hmm, interesting idea there. If you don't use it, I will. Not for the OT4, but something else for sure.

Well, I'm using the feral!Cetra-virus plot for Feral-verse, but I'd love to see you explore the militaristic Cetra idea you mentioned above. ^_^
the_shy_wolf From: the_shy_wolf Date: April 29th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wow that's a fantasic idea! I'm hooked. Already. *Clicks on tag hoping to find more on this.* ^_^
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