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COI - new COI drabble
Here's a small COI drabble for you guys. It started out as comedy, then turned serious as I worked on it, so please forgive me if it sounds a bit disjointed.

Be warned -- it's essentially unbetaed and totally unspell-checked, so expect rampant errors. ^_^;;

Type: Final Fantasy VII - COI fic drabble
Author: madamhydra
Rating: PG
Status: rough draft 11/06/2005
Summary: Cloud and Sephiroth have an interesting conversation amid the birds. ^_^

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Down in the bowels of the Highwind II, Sephiroth found the door he was looking for and pushed it open. Stepping inside, he was immediately confronted by several pairs of bright, inquisitive eyes.

"Wark?" chorused the chocobos.

With their total lack of fear, the flock of riding birds resembled a mob of curious young children. It was just a touch intimidating, but he shook off the feeling and glanced around the cargo hold which had been converted into a small, but comfortable stable for the birds.

"Wark?" Straw rustled as several of the chocobos sidled closer for a better look at the newcomer.

Sephiroth coolly returned their stares. He didn't have much experience with the birds, but even he could tell that every chocobo in this stable was of extraordinary quality. That was evident in the sleek, well-developed muscles, gleaming feathers, and confident body language.

Cloud stepped out from behind a large bird which bear particularly fine golden plumage.

"Were you looking for me?"

Stepping closer, Sephiroth eyed the chocobo and said, "I thought gold chocobos were pure myth."

Cloud grinned and scratched the bird on the breast. It uttered a surprisingly melodious 'kweh' and half-closed its eyes.

"That's not surprising. Everyone hears about them from time to time, but the rumors were usually just that -- rumors. Or if not, someone's usually cooking up some kind of scam."

"But gold chocobos are obviously not a myth, since you appear to have a whole flock of them."

The makeshift stable contained five of the golds, with the rest being black chocobos with glossy, almost opalescent feathers.

Cloud chuckled ruefully as he continued to scratch the large gold chocobo's neck.

"True, but it certainly wasn't easy getting these guys." He reached up and rubbed the underside of the chocobo's head and it hummed happily. "But they were certainly worth every bit of trouble. They got us to the places where we really needed to go. Isn't that right, Nikki?"

The chocobo squawked and bobbed its head enthusiastically.

Sephiroth raised an eyebrow. "Nikki?"

Bending down to retrieve a fallen towel, Cloud replied absently, "After a certain overly precocious brat that I know."

Sephiroth's expression did not change, but his mind was racing. He didn't know much about Cloud Strife's family except for the sparse dry details in Cloud's military records. However, he did know for certain that Zack had a young cousin named Nikolas, nicknamed 'Nikki'. Zack had even talked about his "overly precocious brat" of a nephew with that same exact same tone of rueful amusement.

In the meantime, Cloud had located the errant item. Straightening up, he said, "But I'm sure you didn't come down here to chat about chocobos. What's up?"

Sephiroth said, "We've received the preliminary reports from the search teams Reeve sent out."

"They find anything?" Cloud said, his voice turning grim.

"A great deal of environmental damage, the remains of numerous unidentified monsters, but nothing that looks like Hojo or Jenova." Sephiroth gave Cloud a cool, level stare. "But we expected that. While Hojo's fate is uncertain, we both know that Jenova definitely survived that blast."

Of course they both knew. They could still sense its tainted presence, resonating in their flesh, scrabbling at the edges of their minds. The signs were faint and untraceable, but there could be no mistake. Jenova still lived.

"And what about Sapphire WEAPON?"

"According to Reeve, the search teams found what appears to be several large tentacles and possibly part of its tail floating off the coastline. I should say, off the -new- coastline, since a hefty chunk of the old coastline appears to be missing."

Cloud hissed softly. "Damn. I was afraid of that."

"Of what? Not finding the rest of the WEAPON, or the massive crater on the northern edge of the Western continent?"

"The crater. Red said something like this could happen."

"Care to elaborate on the subject?"

"The Planet views JENOVA as a serious threat, and it's prepared to do whatever it takes to get rid of that threat."

"Even if that means destroying large portions of itself in the process?"

Cloud exhaled slowly. "Yeah. The problem is -- for us, anyway -- is that the Planet doesn't care if a few inconsequential species happen to go extinct in the process."

Sephiroth raised an eyebrow. "So, you're basically saying that the Planet doesn't care if humanity, as a species, survives or not."

"That's right. As long as the Planet itself survives, as long as its ability to create and support life survives, the fate of individual species is pretty much irrelevent."

"Well, that certainly puts humanity firmly in its proper place."

As Cloud made an irritated noise, Sephiroth continued coolly, "It's a legitimate observation. The Planet, it seems, does not play favorites. To the Planet, humans are just another species of living organism, with no greater merit or right to survive than any other type of organism living upon it."

"Maybe, but humans are different, because we can affect our surroundings in ways that most organisms can't. And we can do it proactively, instead of merely hunkering down and hoping to adapt to whatever happens."

"Your point being that if the Planet doesn't care if humanity survives or not, then it's up to humanity to protect itself."

Cloud gave Sephiroth a level stare, and said quietly, "I'm not just talking about humanity. Humans aren't the only ones in danger if the Planet and Jenova get locked into an extended war. There are a lot of other living creatures at risk." He reached up and gently stroked the chocobo's soft golden neck feathers.

"And the best way to ensure the survival of the world, as we know it, is to find Jenova and destroy it before the Planet resorts to truly drastic measures to protect itself."

"But it's rather understandable why the Planet might feel it necessary, given that Jenova is a devourer of worlds." Sephiroth said softly.

Cloud jerked his head up to give Sephiroth a hard, narrow-eyed stare.

"It seems that your memory isn't quite as spotty as you said."

Sephiroth shrugged noncommitally. "A few things are gradually coming back to me."

"I see." Cloud resumed running his hands over the bird's feathers, checking for any problems underneath.

"You aren't going to ask for more details?"

Cloud shrugged. "What would be the point? You'll tell us when and if you're ready, and not a moment sooner." He added, rather pensively, "You've always been that way."

That had one of the things he had liked the most about Zack -- his ability to accept that there were some things about him that were difficult, if not impossible, to change and not waste energy on futile arguments about them.

"After all, it's not like I can -force- you to do anything," Cloud continued in that same thoughtful, slightly absent tone.

{....but I can certainly force YOU....}

The insidious thought bubbled up from the depths of Sephiroth's mind like a wisp of noxious vapor rising from a swamp.

For an instant he froze, appalled at how easily the idea, the mere concept, popped into his head.

Most people would have missed that briefest hitch in Sephiroth's breathing. But Cloud was not most people... or perhaps it was the odd chill he felt, like a cold finger running down his spine. Regardless of the cause, he immediately peered out from behind Nikki and gave Sephiroth a puzzled look.

"What?"

Sephiroth met Cloud's glowing blue gaze levelly and said, "Nothing."

After a pause, Sephiroth murmured, "That's very understanding of you, but it's likely that your friends won't see it that way."

"Most of them will. But you're right. Some of them won't."

"Meaning Lockheart and Barrett."

This time, Cloud did sigh aloud. "Yeah." A slight nudge from the chocobo reminded Cloud to keep up the back rub and he obliged. "Tifa hates you. She has plenty of reasons."

Sephiroth cocked his head slightly.

"And you don't?"

Cloud gave him another quick sharp look.

"You haven't been told me the specifics of what happened during the six years after the Nibelheim mission. But judging from everyone's reactions, I can make some fairly shrewd guesses. You probably have plenty of reasons to hate me. Do you?"

Cloud said nothing for a moment, then said, almost wearily, "Hate you? Sometimes, I don't know." After a long pause, he added in a much firmer tone, "But I'm not going to let my personal feelings interfere with protecting the people I care about."

Sephiroth tipped his head just a fraction and said, "A sensible point of view. But Lockheart's not so pragmatic, is she?"

"No, she sometimes has problems putting her emotions aside," Cloud said quietly, and left it at that.

After a few minutes of silence, broken only by the rustle of straw and the soft kwehing of contented birds, Cloud said, "We have to stop Hojo and Jenova. No matter what it takes."

"I despise those two just as much as you do, if not more."

"I know that. Which is why I'm prepared to work together with you. Because this time, I have the nasty feeling we're going to need all the help we can get."

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend, is that it?"

"Or temporary ally, at least."

Sephiroth's lips curled up in a faint smirk. "I'm sure Lockhart simply loves that idea."

"Yeah, well we all end up having to do things we don't like, don't we?" Cloud said stoically.

Silence fell again, then Sephiroth quietly said, "Is this present world we live in really worth fighting for? Is the idea of change that abhorrent?"

Cloud said nothing for while, then replied mediatively, "I'm not against change in principle. There's nothing inherently wrong with change. Nothing stays the same forever, right?"

He suddenly shot Sephiroth a fierce stare.

"But the idea of getting wiped out of existance because some fucking space alien crashlands on my home planet and gets an attack of the munchies really, REALLY pisses me off!"

Sephiroth stared at him for a second, then burst into laughter. He couldn't help it. It was the sort of honest, eye-watering full-bodied laugh that he almost never indulged in. And on the very rare occasions he did, Zack was always the culprit.

He suspected that this time was no exception.

His laughter gradually subsided into muffled chuckles as Sephiroth sank down onto an pile of hay bales.

Slightly breathless, he waved his hand at Cloud, who giving him a look of half-annoyance and half-... indulgence?... then hastily said, "No, no. I wasn't laughing at you. It's just that that is one sentiment that I have no problem understanding."

Cloud snorted, and taking Sephiroth's unexpected bout of hilarity amazingly in stride, leaned against Nikki with a look of mild exasperation as he waited for the other man to recover his composure.

But their moods quickly sombered as they returned their attention to the current unsettled situation.

"So you're proposing an alliance of convenience, with Jenova and Hojo as our mutual enemies," Sephiroth said coolly.

"That's right." After a brief pause, Cloud continued, "You're not the sort who can be intimidated into a course of action. And I know you won't tolerate being locked up."

This time it was Sephiroth's turn for a hard, narrow-eyed stare.

"Which basically leaves two options. One, we can kill you. Again." Cloud's expression was stony, his voice flat. "Or two, we can trust you. And of those two options, I really don't think we can afford the first, not with Hojo, Jenova, and the WEAPONS all running around amok."

The first option was no bluff or hollow threat. Together, Cloud and his friends could almost certainly kill him. They were that good. But it would cost them dearly in precious time, energy, and possibly even lives.

Sephiroth said dispassionately, "You're probably right. You surely don't expect me to lie down and allow myself to be conveniently slaughtered."

Cloud's expression somehow managed to harden even more.

"No, I don't. You couldn't do that. Even if you wanted to."

After the briefest pause, Sephiroth spoke, his voice sharper than Masamune's edge.

".... Did Zack tell you that interesting fact?"

Cloud's response was just as sharp, with a definite hint of ice. "You know better than that."

The two men stared at each other, but it was Sephiroth who looked away first, twitching a shoulder in a shrug that might be considered an apology.

Cloud gave him a twisted little smile. "No, I found out about that little biological quirk by myself. During my time in Nibelheim. A SOLDIER's body doesn't die easily, does it? And especially not by its own hand."

No, it didn't. A SOLDIER's mind could break, yielding to madness or suicidal despair, but a SOLDIER's body did not surrender meekly to death. It clung to life with an intensity that few could understand. Something in a SOLDIER's creation, perhaps the infusion of Jenova cells, heightened a human's already well developed survival instinct to the point of near-compulsion. And the more powerful and heavily modified the SOLDIER, the more intense the instincts to live at all costs.

A disciplined mind could override that instinct for self-preservation, allowing the SOLDIER to knowingly confront danger and possible death... unless the body's desire to survive was so strong that it couldn't be entirely controlled, no matter how hard one tried.

For Sephiroth -- and for Cloud, it seemed -- suicide was not a viable option. It was that very reason that he had asked for Zack's promise, and why Zack had been willing to give it.

Sephiroth nodded in brief acknowledgement.

"So that leaves option number two," Cloud said.

"Trust me?" Sephiroth said with scornful amusement. "And how likely is that?"

"In certain ways, more likely than you think."

Sephiroth raised a skeptical eyebrow.

"I think that it's reasonable to trust in your tactical judgment, your analytical abilities, and your fighting skills. And trust in your desire to stop Hojo and Jenova from carrying out their sick schemes, whatever they are. As for the rest...." Cloud shrugged noncommitally.

"Fair enough."

Actually, all things considered, it was more than Sephiroth expected.

"I've already discussed this with the others. Most of them agree with me."

Sephiroth's lip curled slightly. "I can guess who didn't agree."

"Not at first. But since we're rather short on alternatives, Tifa and Barrett are willing to give it a try."

"Fine, as long as they don't actively interfere with me."

After watching Cloud carefully examining the chocobo's wing feathers for a few minutes, Sephiroth said, "Don't chocobos usually groom themselves?"

"Yes, but just because you can do something for yourself...."

"....doesn't always mean you have to do it for yourself. Yes, I know."

The brief exchange stirred Sephiroth's memories of similar conversations with Zack. One would reasonably assume that Zack, one of the most independent, self-sufficient people Sephiroth knew, would be very reluctant to depend or rely upon others. Zack, however, didn't seem to have a problem with it. He wasn't indiscriminate with his trust, of course, but his ability to judge people meant that he was rarely disappointed.

In fact, Zack's worst mistake in judgment was sitting right here on a haybale amid a flock of chocobos.

To Sephiroth, a stable full of birds had seemed like an incongruous place to have such a serious conversation, but when he thought about it, there was something soothing about the chocobos' presence. It just seemed easier to speak candidly. Or perhaps it was simply relief at being able to get away from Lockheart's neverending hostility and suspicion.

Cloud gave Nikki one last pat before stepping out of the stall.

"So we don't have a clue where Jenova or Hojo are now." He made a frustrated noise. "No, of course it wouldn't that easy."

"What did you expect? A pointed arrow and a sign saying 'Hojo, 300 miles that-a-way'?" Sephiroth said drily.

"One can always hope, right?" Cloud retorted with a wry grin.

As they both turned to leave the Highwind II's makeshift chocobo stable, Sephiroth said, "Hojo and Jenova are too cunning to be so easily found. If we had a better idea what they were up to, we might be able to better deduce where.... ack!"

Startled, Cloud quickly turned to see what could possibly make Sephiroth yelp like that.

Cloud's gold chocobo Nikki blinked innocently at them, its beak firmly clamped on a mouthful of Sephiroth's long silver hair.

Sephiroth glared at the bird, then attempted to free the trapped hair with a firm tug, but without success.

"You idiot bird, let go!" Sephiroth muttered between gritted teeth.

Even with its beak full, Nikki somehow managed to utter a chocobo chortle.

No, he wasn't asinine enough to get caught up in a game of Whack-a-Chocobo. That sort of idiocy was a drunken fool's game, even with common birds. Against a gold chocobo of Nikki's obvious quality, Sephiroth -knew- he would lose.

Behind him, Sephiroth could hear stifled noises which told him that Cloud was trying hard not to laugh.

Turning awkwardly, Sephiroth glowered at Cloud and said, "I'm -so- glad you think this is funny. It's YOUR damn bird. Do -something- before I decide to have broiled poultry for lunch."

Nikki snorted audibly at this obvious bluff.

Sephiroth tugged again. Nikki playfully tugged back.

"Well, if you want my damn hair that much...."

Thoroughly exasperated, Sephiroth reached out and yanked the combat knife from Cloud's belt. He lifted the blade, but before he could slice his hair free, Cloud caught his arm and said hastily, "You don't need to do that. All Nikki wants is a little attention from you."

Sephiroth stared balefully at the other man.

"Try petting him," Cloud added, who was trying very hard to remain straight-faced and mostly succeeding. But there was a suspicious twitch at the corner of his mouth....

At that moment, Sephiroth could have done a lot of things, ranging from non-lethal to downright deadly. But the sight of a familiar mischievous gleam in Cloud's eyes and the echo of an equally familiar tone of playful humor in the other man's voice made Sephiroth give in, however ungraciously.

He did put up a token protest.

"Why is it that cats, birds, little children, teenaged girls, and other dumb creatures have this absurd fascination with my hair!?" he snarled.

Nikki the chocobo snorted at the insult to its intelligence, but didn't let go.

So it was that when Yuffie peeked into the cargo hold, she found a mildly disgruntled Sephiroth standing with Cloud's chocobo leaning heavily against him, its neck propped on his shoulder and eyes closed in smug contentment as Sephiroth gave the chocobo a nice, thorough neck and chest scratch. Nearby, perched relaxedly on a pile of crates, Cloud watched the scene with an amused grin while making some comment about the notorious fickleness of female chocobos.

Sephiroth broke off his conversation with Cloud, turned to the bird and muttered, "NOW are you satisfied? You're going to become as spoiled as your namesake."

The chocobo finally released its clamp on Sephiroth's long hair and warbled happily.

Peering around the door frame, Yuffie forgot about her roiling stomach and giggled.

When he heard her, Sephiroth twitched and flushed slightly, obviously embarrassed to be caught doing something as silly as petting and talking to an oversized bird.

He brusquely pushed Nikki's head off his shoulder and stalked out of the cargo hold with as much dignity as he could muster, which wasn't much considering he had chocobo fluff all over his black jacket and bird drool on his hair.


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Comments
chibijaana From: chibijaana Date: November 7th, 2005 03:20 am (UTC) (Link)

You WIN!

Poor Sephiroth!! I'm sure he was just MORTIFIED being in such an undignified position. Heeeee!!
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 7th, 2005 03:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: You WIN!

Heh! Ooh, the blow to his icy superwarrior persona! ::mock-gasp::
bard_linn From: bard_linn Date: November 7th, 2005 03:27 am (UTC) (Link)
Linn loves this fic THIS MUCH *spreads arms as far apart as they can go* The "alien with munchies" and the "Hojo that away!" made me fall over laughing, as did the scene with Sephiroth and Chochobos. I think you did a good job mixing humor with seriousness and I can see that happening in your universe. And yay for more COI Cloud and Sephiroth interaction! *waves flag*
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 7th, 2005 03:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
The 'that-a-way' comment was the result of watching the new Loony Tunes dvd collection a bit too much. @_@

The 'alien with munchies' is so typical of Zack, who tends to focus much more on the welfare of himself and 'his people', and is less concerned with the welfare of others. It's not that he doesn't care what happens to other people, but they're considerably lower on his list of priorities.

I see the more altruistic desire to protect the world as a whole to be a legacy of the original Cloud, who I can picture as a young child dreaming of doing heroic deeds. etc., until those dreams were crushed out of him by ugly reality. ::sniffle::

COI Cloud and Sephiroth interactions are wickedly fun to write, especially when there's so many hidden personalities lurking about on BOTH sides (e.g., Cloud, Zack, Strife, Sephiroth's insanity, etc.) and who keep manifesting in unexpected ways in the conversation. ::evil grin::
bard_linn From: bard_linn Date: November 7th, 2005 04:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's an interesting insight with your Zack (who I don't know very well yet, for obvious reasons). Good to know for the future.

Yes, that thing with Strife vs. Cloud makes my Cloud Fangirl Sad. :( She wants to smack Strife very, very hard and is worried about what will happen with him (which is your intention, I'm sure).

Looking for those pieces makes the conversations so enjoyable!

Do you mind if I stalk friend you so I won't miss any more? Promise to comment and make puppy eyes asking for more cause it rocks so much.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 7th, 2005 04:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sure, go right ahead. I don't mind fic stalkers. Just try to avoid the cattle prods, eh? ^_^;
bard_linn From: bard_linn Date: November 7th, 2005 04:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
YAY! *STALKS*

Joking aside, I don't cattle prod really. ^^; I find it tends to be counter productive. I do want to let authors know their work is appreciated. Which is it! So I prefer to say things like "Wonderful stuff, I liked a, b and c" rather than "GIVE ME MORE". The other only ticks people off. :(

*scampers away*
snake_lady From: snake_lady Date: November 7th, 2005 04:53 am (UTC) (Link)
I haven't read anything related to COI in years and this reminded me of why I liked it so much. Very nice ^_^
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 7th, 2005 04:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank you! Advent Children and Last Order were the kick in the butt that I needed to resume working on COI. Hopefully, I can stay focused for a while. ::crossing fingers::
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madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 7th, 2005 04:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
::giggles:: I actually did had that mental image -- Sephiroth in the woods, lurking in ambush, and a bold little bird hops right up to him, cocks its little head, eyes those pretty shiny silvery stuff covetously, then tries to grab some for its nest.

However, I think Sephiroth would tolerate the wee little birdies with considerably more grace compared to being pestered by teenaged girls (and both young and grown women, for that matter) in the throes of hero-worship. -_-

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bard_linn From: bard_linn Date: November 7th, 2005 01:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
Conflicts of Intrests. Her FFVII universe. <33333333333333333333333 :)
rachecho From: rachecho Date: November 7th, 2005 11:13 am (UTC) (Link)
wonderful humor... so this is how sephiroth turns out if he hadn't gone all insane and decided to destroy the world XDD

but i got confused!!! i thought COI was cloud going to a world where sephiroth is alive and he's dead... or maybe i'm confusing it with the many other fics out there, where they crossed over... and if i did confuse yours with others... opps? hee. but its nice to read something from COI again XP
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 7th, 2005 04:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yup, you got me a little confused with someone else's fic. In COI, Sephiroth has been brought back to life (a famous FF7 fanfic cliche, I admit).

Well, it's hard to get any good idea of Sephiroth's personality in the game, but from the few lines he has, I tend to think that Sephiroth does indeed have some sense of humor. Granted, it would be a rather cynical, coldly sarcastic, and even malicious sense of humor, but a sense of humor, nevertheless.

Which is why I think he and Zack make such a wonderful pair. Zack is the sort who is both easy-going enough and self-confident enough to let that type of acid commentary to just roll off his back most of the time. But Zack isn't afraid to stand up to Sephiroth, either, when he feels the situation warrants it.

And when Zack puts his foot down, Sephiroth definitely pays attention, because Zack only does it when it's important. ^_-

If you haven't noticed, Sephiroth tends to let Zack have his way. ::significant eyebrow waggle::
lotusinsight From: lotusinsight Date: November 8th, 2005 05:27 am (UTC) (Link)
*SNERK*
Well, they did ressurrect Sephy in CANON (Advent Children), it doesn't make it any LESS of a cliche but at least lends more justification (as in "WELL, it did TOO happen!")? XDDD
kitsune_jade From: kitsune_jade Date: November 7th, 2005 05:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
This drabble inspires me to make a FST for your COI, although I doubt I'd do it much justice. But...

I love the humor mixed in this short drabble. The idea of Sephiroth petting a chocobo is priceless. Thank you for the wonderful read. ^__^
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 8th, 2005 03:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
::blink blink:: What's a FST?

I do wonder how Sephiroth's interaction with animals tend to work out. Would many of them sense something 'unnatural' about him, and what would they do about it -- run away in fear or become hostile? Or would they behave normally around him?

Considering how alienated and aloof Sephiroth tends to be from people, I think he appreciates more than most the presence of and contact with non-judgemental creatures. ::points to chibi-wolfie-Zack::

kitsune_jade From: kitsune_jade Date: November 8th, 2005 05:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
FST - Fan Soundtrack. I'm half-way done with the FST and would probably post it soon. I'd give you the heads up when I'm through. ^^;;

Most animals tend to be more sensitive than humans. They more often than not know when something would be a threat to them. They'd probably know that something is different with Spehiroth. However, if this Sephiroth is the sane one, they'd probably ignore the strange part and would treat him as they would someone normally. Although his hair would be a great interest to most of them. *grins*
cheekykokoro From: cheekykokoro Date: November 7th, 2005 11:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm a total sucker for Sadist!Roth x Cloud (which is why I loved "Reaction" so damn much) but that last bit with the chocobo was just so damn ADORABLE that I've fallen in love with the consensual pairing all over again.

Yeah, I'm fickle. Write more <3
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 8th, 2005 03:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm fickle, too, veering from sadistic mindfuckery to playful silliness. It's good that a hydra's got multiple heads, eh?
cheekykokoro From: cheekykokoro Date: November 9th, 2005 01:37 am (UTC) (Link)
*feeds all multiple heads strawberry pocky*
mukanshin From: mukanshin Date: November 8th, 2005 02:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I found myself being a little overly critical for this drabble. ^^; Maybe it's because of the note that it was essentually unbetaed, which tends to want to bring out the beta-er in me. *woes*

Over all I rather like it. ^___^. The interaction between the three of them is great though you keep making Nikki go from female to male and back again. o.o; It was a bit disjointed though not so much so in the comical/serious way, but more in that the second half seems to be better suited as going before the conversation in the front half, in my mind.

The little hints *pachuu* suicide. *pachuu* On both Clouds (did he try or just think about it whilst in Nibelheim?) and Sephy's (being killed by Zack's hand if it came to it...?) sides. Oh how you know how to get my little fangirl heart a twitter. <3 <3

My main gripe with it is however that I can't get myself to place it within the overall story very well. *sniffles* At first I was thinking it had to be after teaser 2, Ch 8, because it sounded like they'd already agreed on what to do with Seph since he was giving Cloud report data (things having settled a bit and all), but then in the second half it seemed like it had moved back in time really close to them either still deciding or just having decided wich made it feel like it should go before teaser 2, Ch 8, but the mood of the peice doesn't seem like a good lead in to the somber mood and ponderings of said teaser 2, Ch 8. X.x Needless to say I love and adore teaser 2, Ch 8. <3 I'm very protective of it and on some level view this drabble as a threat to it. ~.~;

But all those things aside, me really likes a lot and thanks ye for posting it. <3 Question: Are you going to post this drabble and the one previous on COI's main or sub page?
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 8th, 2005 04:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
I know the first and second halves seemed to be a bit incongruous. I wrote the 2nd part first, but when I started working on the intro, the conversation took a left turn into seriousness. But I think that the order (serious, then funny) works for my purposes -- ending the scene on a humorous note gives the story a nice upbeat touch, and prevents the story from being one long angst-wallow. Putting the serious part at the end just seems like such a downer. Bleah.
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Because in the end, this story is very much about the triumph of love, comraderie, respect, devotion, and all that sort of mushy stuff. ^_^ Although don't expect people (especially Sephiroth!) to go around using the 'love' word.

Really, why am I so drawn to people who obviously feel very deeply, but almost never express it in conventional ways (i.e., verbally) -- Sephiroth, Kaiba, Aoshi, Saitoh, Sanzou, etc.? ::ponder::

Anyway, when I work this drabble into the actual story, the transition will hopefully be much more believable. ^_^;;

As for placing it in the framework of COI, that's admittedly a bit vague. And don't you mean teaser 1 (which is the conversation between Cloud and Sephiroth), because teaser 2 is the COI version of the events 6 years ago at Nibelheim? ^_-

Do remember that teaser 1 is rather old, and the plot's gone through some serious tweaking since I wrote it. That's not to say it's obsolete, of course! ::ducks quickly::

If I had to place it, I would say that your first instincts were correct and it does takes place after teaser 1, where everyone is still pondering what the heck to do about Sephiroth. Teaser 1 would have taken place after the initial round of discussions, while everything is still up in the air. Cloud's still in the process of trying to sort out his admittedly mixed feelings about Sephiroth. But by this point, it's pretty well understood by both sides what the only reasonable decision is (i.e., working together).

So at the beginning of this drabble, everyone knows they have to cooperate. However, the details of that cooperation are still unsettled and vague. Therefore, the discussion in the middle part of the above drabble is really more of an act of courtesy and consideration on Cloud's part, so he can explain his and his friends' reasoning more fully to Sephiroth and set out more clearly what is expected (and needed) from both sides. Because up until that moment, it's unclear to Sephiroth how much of this is Cloud's decision and how much input the other had (clearly, a lot). From this, Sephiroth now knows that he can expect reasonable cooperation from the others (and somewhat reluctant cooperation from Tifa and Barrett).

I hope that what I said makes sense. ::sweatdrop:: I'm sorry if it doesn't sound that way, but hopefully it will once I start piecing everything together. ^_^;;

Unfortunately, due to my recent computer problems, my website files are a total mess, so I wouldn't be updating the website for a while. ::sigh::

mukanshin From: mukanshin Date: November 9th, 2005 01:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ah! *points* Another drabble already up! X3!!

*nods* The order does go very well and what is angst and all that without love and such.

*hugglz chibi Sanzo Houshi-sama plushie* Probablly because of the same reasons I'm drawn to them. And also to the kinda 'kicked puppy dog-ish' ones too... >.>

~.~ Yes. I did mean Teaser 1, Ch 8. I have an obsessive compulsive thing towards even numbers. Damn obssessive complusiveness.

Hai~ I believe it came out right after I had first found COI many a years back. <3 *wobbly eyes* I hope not obsolete. I'm prepaired to bribe. :ninja: Is seriously, I think, one of my all time fav peices to the work. And yes it all made sense, thank you for the clearification.

*remiss* And I read about your 'puter problems too. Dang short term memories on the fritz again. x.x
naanima From: naanima Date: November 9th, 2005 11:36 am (UTC) (Link)
...Happiness, so much happiness, oh the happiness. You are finally writing more COI. So happy *snuggles* As much as I love the angst, to see Sephiroth and Cloud relaxed, relatively speaking of course, makes me so happy.

So, something happens, Big Jenova get blown to smitherines, Weapon gets hammered, and more talks on the highwind. I must reread COI to remember all the details. It has been years, but oh I'm so HAPPY!.
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 10th, 2005 04:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, both Sapphire Weapon and Jenova-CORE are still around, except they each took a pretty severe beating.

Yup, there's going to be plenty of interesting chats between various people. ::innocent whistle::
From: ixnos Date: November 10th, 2005 01:42 am (UTC) (Link)
This is a fun read. I'm looking forward to more. : )
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 10th, 2005 04:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks! I'll do my best to oblige. ^_^
redcrest From: redcrest Date: November 10th, 2005 06:26 am (UTC) (Link)
LOL!!!! Oh my god, poor Sephi!!! XD Now *this* is what I'm talking about~~ Cloud-Seph quality time! <3 MH-sama, you are so generous~~ having Sephiroth laugh for us and then putting him in that hilarious situation with Nikki at the end~! ^^

Okay, here's the odd thing... I know that all I ever do is whine for more Zack, more Zack, more Zack-- but in this scene, I was actually wishing a bit for more Cloud. @_@; All those surprisingly cute things Sephiroth does in this scene would have been a bit more satisfying if Cloud had been as surprised/baffled/unexpectedly pleased as we were. The whole "getting to know the human side of the villain" thing is really appealing, but since Zack already knows Seph far too well, this couldn't be done with Cloud-as-Zack. So... ehh, as much as I (and Seph) like it when Zack floats up to the surface in Cloud's mind, so to speak, maybe less is more and those rare, precious moments with him will be even more squeal-worthy if most of the time, we just have Cloud-as-Cloud talking to Seph?

Of course, I don't know where you're going with Cloud and Seph's relationship, so don't let me deter you-- this is just what I felt after reading this cuddly, little story~ ^___^ LoL, after all the angst (I just read the other, Reno-centric piece you put up), this little moment of lightness and fun is SO welcome~ ^__^ (and yay for Yuffie sneaking in there! LoL, I'm sure the entire crew will know about Sephiroth's bird-petting adventure by the end of the day, ne? ^^) <3

HOORAY for more COI stories-- and seriously, ganbatte with chapter 8! (I can't wait!! XD Christmas present, maybe...? ^^)
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: November 10th, 2005 05:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
Actually, the recent COI drabbles may have given you a mistaken impression. Zack's persona usually doesn't show up so markedly under normal circumstances. First, Zack does tend to manifest more strongly when he's alone with Sephiroth. Second, in specific high emotional stress situations, such as being in Nibelheim. The chocobo drabble fall into the first category and the Cloud/Reno drabble falls into the second.

The conversation in the chocobo stable is definitely a special occasion because Cloud and Sephiroth really don't have many opportunities to be alone, giving the ongoing crisis. Tifa, especially, would be EXTREMELY reluctant to leave those two alone, because of her worries about Cloud and her hostility/suspicions about Sephiroth.

So when you consider the upcoming chapter(s) as a whole (i.e., when other people are around) Cloud will be (hopefully) behaving basically like Cloud.

As for having Cloud behaving as Cloud in the chocobo drabble, I don't think it would work nearly as well. Actually, to be honest, I don't think that the comedic last bit in the chocobo drabble would have occurred at all if Cloud had been more Cloud. The only reason Sephiroth is willing to laugh and let his guard down, so to speak, is because he's responding to Zack's strong presence. Zack was/is a trusted and intimate friend, while Cloud is a respected opponent-now-temporary-ally, and he treats them very differently. If Cloud had been Cloud in the chocobo drabble, Cloud would NOT have stopped Sephiroth from just cutting his hair, and he certainly would NOT have suggested Sephiroth pet the chocobo. And even if Cloud had presumed to make the suggestion, Sephiroth definitely would not have given in.

Let's face it -- Cloud has extremely mixed feelings about Sephiroth, no wonder considering their past history, so naturally Cloud is rather wary and tense around Sephiroth. He would even more suspicious of having any sort of warm feelings toward Sephiroth, because he can never be quite sure whether they are his own emotions or perhaps the result of some devious tampering by Sephiroth. That's why his other friends' input is so important -- Cloud does not trust his own judgment where Sephiroth is concerned, and is constantly second-guessing himself. So while Cloud (without Zack's influence) may be courteous toward Sephiroth, he's unlikely to be warm and friendly.

Sephiroth has equally compelling reasons not to be overtly friendly toward Cloud. For one thing, being 'nice' would only make everyone, especially Cloud, more suspicious and wary of him. This is a man who is notorious from being cold, critical, arrogant, and demanding. That's what everyone expects to see and is prepared to deal with. Deviating from expectations will only complicate matters.

Secondly, Sephiroth has absolutely NO interest in making other people like him or exposing his 'human side'. He doesn't really give a damn what other people think of him as along as they can work efficiently together. Right now the only thing he's interested is making what little restitution he can for succumbing to Jenova's lies and betraying his friendship with Zack. And the only way to do that is help Cloud/Zack defeat Jenova and Hojo, and thereby survive.

Actually, I can see a very strong parallel between Sephiroth's behavior in COI and a possible explanation for Snape's actions in the Harry Potter books, especially the most recent one (The Half-Blood Prince). ^_-

So, no, you won't see COI Sephiroth being relaxed and friendly with Cloud or anyone else unless: (1) Zack's persona is strongly dominant AND (2) they're alone, with the possible exception of certain moments of distraction, etc.

So you can see that why Sephiroth is so mortified at getting caught (by Yuffie, of all people!) in the act of doing something as 'normal' as petting and talking to a chocobo. ^_-

redcrest From: redcrest Date: November 14th, 2005 09:45 am (UTC) (Link)
Aww, I see what you mean about Seph not caring to make nice with the other kids, but then Seph's only viable relationship (w/ Zack) will just remain the same as it was in the past, and I, at least, would really like to see Seph develop a little socially. Not to the point, of course, where he's friendly (or even on talking terms) with the others, but at least with Cloud-as-Cloud...

Considering the only way to be near his precious Zack is to stay beside Cloud, I kind of expected Seph to try, at least, to befriend Cloud ("befriend" is much too strong a word for now-- just, slowly, painfully, win back his trust or at least, his respect/allowance to stay with him). I guess, if Seph has no intention of trying to get "Zack" back in his life after he makes ammends for his betrayal, he wouldn't need to bother making Cloud trust him... but it would be so much fun to read... ^^
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 26th, 2005 05:38 pm (UTC) (Link)

COI - Cloud and Sephiroth's relationship, if any?

I agree with darkyradis about wanting to see Sephiroth attempt to make friends (sort of) with Cloud. I can see the strain between these two and the emotional powder keg that could blow up in everyone's face if their relationship doesn't walk on really fragile eggshells. But the closeness of Sephiroth and Zack/Cloud is a very real and, I think, important issue in this fanfic. I would love to see it grow, even though I just know Strife is going to do his best to screw it up! *o* This story is so much fun to read. Each time a new portion is added, I just have to run back to my binders and reread the entire story all over again!! I can't wait for the next installment and I know I'm being REALLY selfish, but I wish madamhydra would spend more time on COI than any of the other fanfics she's writing. I'm totally wrapped up in the story and now I have images of Advent Children's Cloud and friends to SEE when I read!! What could be better?
redcrest From: redcrest Date: December 7th, 2005 12:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: COI - Cloud and Sephiroth's relationship, if any?

...To be honest, I selfishly wish MH would only write COI too, but I guess you can't choose when/where inspiration strikes, huh? ^^ Still, I think I've read almost everything else by MH too, by this point... =P (the good thing about not updating for a long time is that your fans of a particular story will get desperate for more and read your other works! LoL!)
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