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With a decidedly sinister laugh... - Convolutions of an Evil Mind
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With a decidedly sinister laugh...
Well, I've managed to survive the end of the fiscal year and even managed to get my production bonus, although I had to pull an all-nighter to do it. Whoopie.

::collapses into limp heap from exhaustion::

But on a much happier note, I got a new DVD player that plays divx (i.e., AVI) files! Now I can watch my fansubs on my sofa (thereby sparing my poor butt) and on my 25" TV (versus my archaic 17" CRT monitor). It cost about $70 more than an ordinary DVD player, but my poor aging eyes say that it was worth every penny. ::pets her new DVD player::

I decided to take a few days off to recover from my recent labors so I settled down to watch "Last Order" (again!) and more of "Advent Children". Ah, watching the duel between Cloud and Sephiroth in slo-mo was a revelation -- I saw some things that I totally missed at regular speed. Understandable, given how damn fast some of the fighting went. It reminds me of the famous fight between Kenshin and Saitoh in the Kamiya dojo -- things move so fast that it's easy to miss the subtler details.

But the thing that absolutely fascinates me about Cloud's fight with Sephiroth is....
....is how wonderfully ambigous Sephiroth's words are.

On a superficial level, he seems to be merely taunting Cloud by threatening what Cloud cherishes like your stereotypical uber-villain. Now, maybe it's just the Sephiroth fangirl in me, but it seems to me that Sephiroth's words and actions can be interpreted in an entirely different way -- he almost seems to be encouraging Cloud to fight with all he's got. It's not so much "I'm going to make you suffer and die", but more on the lines of "Show me what you can do" and "Do you care enough to stop me?" It's as if Sephiroth really wants Cloud to defeat him.

Yes, the two of them go sword-to-sword in the most ferocious way imaginable. But on the flip side, I pretty sure I saw two instances when one of them prevented the other from being hit by rubble. Sephiroth did it when the front of the Shinra building was sliding down on Cloud. Cloud returned the favor later in the fight when he suddenly jumps over Sephiroth's head to slice apart a huge hunk of rubble that was headed straight for Sephiroth's back.

Interesting, isn't it? It's quite possible that they each did it for purely tactical reason (to give themselves a fighting advantage). On the other hand.... ::suggestive eyebrow waggle::

And there are at least TWO instances when Sephiroth could have killed Cloud outright and didn't. The first was when Cloud wavers from exhaustion (he's been fighting Bahamut, and Kadaj and crew, not to mention suffering from Geostigma) and leaves himself open. However, Sephiroth doesn't cut him down with his sword, but instead grabs Cloud by the throat and flings him back. The second is when Cloud's up against a wall and Sephiroth stabs him... through the shoulder. Now come on. You can't tell me that Sephiroth, of all people, managed to miss a motionless, sitting target THAT badly.

Now this is pure fanfic writer speculation, but... what if Sephiroth didn't want to be resurrected at all? What if Sephiroth wanted to rest in peace and/or oblivion, but once awakened (e.g., by Kadaj's summoning), he is unable to return to 'sleep' on his own (e.g., due to his own insanity or some JENOVA-related biological imperative)? So who is the one person who has definitively shown the ability to put Sephiroth 'to rest', so to speak? So all (or nearly all) of Sephiroth's dialogue can be viewd as a deliberate attempt to provoke Cloud into defeating/killing him again.

And is Sephiroth's last line just a threat, or perhaps also a warning to Cloud?

::rubbing hands with glee::

And on the COI front....
Watching "Advent Children" and especially "Last Order" has given me evil, EVIL thoughts.

In the COI side-story "Hollow", President Shinra learns about and approves Dr. Roissy's proposal for the Super-SOLDIER program, using Zack and 'the other survivor' of Nibelheim as subjects.

What if... President Shinra knows that Cloud Strife is his son? If the project works and the scientists succeed in their quest to 'imprint' another man's personality (Zack) into a super-enhanced host body (Cloud), think of the wonderfully diabolical possibilities that suddenly open up for President Shinra with respect to his other son Rufus -- Rufus, who shares an extremely similar genetic makeup as Cloud. What wouldn't a person like President Shinra do for the chance to take over and live in a young, healthy, superhumanly enhanced body? Couldn't you just picture President Shinra 'volunteering' Rufus as the next candidate for Dr. Roissy's research project? ::evil laugh::

This could explain President Shinra's apparent lack of recognition when Cloud and AVALANCHE run into him at the beginning of the game -- he's basically lying and feigning ignorance about Cloud for his own purposes.

In which case, it's lucky for Rufus that Sephiroth killed off his father when he did, eh? But who's to say what happened to Rufus after Diamond WEAPON's attack on Midgar and the Shinra Building. ^_-

::scampers off giddily to work on COI::

BTW, I ended up having to get a brand new computer - a Mac Mini. Awww, it's cute! ^_^

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annakas From: annakas Date: October 6th, 2005 06:43 am (UTC) (Link)
Ohhh Sephiroth *molests* to me his last words were such a promise of Kingdom Hearts. He and Cloud do end up there, right? Ohhh and I adore your take on the fight. It is always fun to see animes/series/books from a slasher perspective *beams*

Shows Madamhydra to write more.

annakas
who is going nuts with anticipation.

redcrest From: redcrest Date: October 6th, 2005 07:47 am (UTC) (Link)
Ooh~~ a new computer? ^^ So nice for writing fanfiction, ne? ^__~ Hee hee, I'm so happy to hear your COI muses are going full steam ahead! I think the Prez Shinra twist would be lovely because 1) it would make Rufus a victim, which somehow makes him more appealing, and 2) a resurrected Rufus and Cloud discovering that they're brothers... that's so cute, somehow! ^^ Vell, here's to more ZACKxSeph scenes, mochiron, but I love all of COI~ ^__^

Your analysis of Seph and Cloud's AC fight makes me want to watch it so much~!! Guuuu, I don't think I can wait for one of my friends to get their act together and burn/send me AC... do you know if there's any place online I could still get it? ^^;
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: October 7th, 2005 08:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ooh~~ a new computer? ^^ So nice for writing fanfiction, ne? ^__~

Yes, it's small, but adorable. ::pats mini-mac::

Hee hee, I'm so happy to hear your COI muses are going full steam ahead!

Full steam ahead? HA! They're eating my BRAIN. :P

Your analysis of Seph and Cloud's AC fight makes me want to watch it so much~!!

Oh, it's terrific! So loaded with subtext. ::gloat gloat:: I'm actually working on a transcription of that scene with written descriptions. I'm considering screencaps, as well, but I'm still in the process of slowly reinstalling software on my new computer so that might take a while. ::sigh::

Also, at the beginning, there's a nice Cloud/Zack moment/flashback. And then you get to see Cloud's eyes get all cat-like, and images of Sephiroth start flashing through his brain. ::evil cackle::

Guuuu, I don't think I can wait for one of my friends to get their act together and burn/send me AC... do you know if there's any place online I could still get it? ^^;

Well, there are various versions around. You might try Shinsen-subs (http://www.shinsen-subs.org/) for info. The other groups are AonE and FF4ever. However, they're only available on IRC, which I can't use. Try Googling those groups and see what you can find. Good luck!


redcrest From: redcrest Date: October 8th, 2005 12:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
A transcript w/ descriptions of subtext = awesome! A transcript w/ descriptions of subtext plus screencaps = <3 <3 <3. Please try to screencap if you manage to escape from your COI muses for a moment! ^^

Speaking of which-- HURRAY for brain-devouring COI muses! ^^ Work harder, muse-gata!!! Make Hydra-sama's Zack/CloudxSeph scenes drip with subtext and yearning!! <3 <3 <3 (and make them plentiful!) ^___~ Onegaishimasu!!!
mukanshin From: mukanshin Date: October 7th, 2005 01:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
...*fidgets*...

Was going to post this lastnight but alas it was like 3am-ish and upon further thought at the time I thought it a rather bad idea seeing as how probably nothing but fangirl whorshipfullness would come through in an incoherent sleepy mummble.

Firstly I love you. <3

Secondly I love your little devious plot bunnies concerning President ShinRa and Rufus. It makes perfect sense and opens up a lot of doors for things to come in the future. And just the little hint that we may be seeing Rufus in COI makes me very happy. Just that whole plot idea makes me happy. X3

I personally haven't had a chance to see Advent Children yet, even though it's been sitting on me 'puter for over a week *crie*, due to work and such and can't for some reason get it to want to burn successfully and migrate over to my laptop either.

I did however see Last Order lastnight. In fact I saw it over and over again. (thus the up at 3am-ish thing) ^^;; The Zack fangirl in me spazzed and died and revived to spazz so many times it wasn't funny. X) However for my bringing Last Oder up... It might just be me, and my slashy oriented mind D:, but during Sephy and Clouds little tiff ater Sephy skewered Cloud for the second time and Cloud impaled himself futher and flung Sephy around (after all that I dare any of those Cloud haters to say that he's a weak character, maybe a little 'cuckoocuckoo' which I think is very much understandable)...where was I?...oh yes and Sephy asked Cloud who he was, or something like that, please forgive but my mind is working on less than 2hrs sleep, suddenly Sephy smiled. o.o The whole thing just threw me completely out of my FFVII/Zack/Cloud/Sephy/OMDFG trance for a few seconds before I was sucked right back in. It wasn't exactly because Sephiroth smiled, it was how he smiled. Sure it was a little manacle and all that but it was a knowing smile. Like he just realized something in relation to his own question and therefore Cloud. It makes me wonder what it was so badily. X3 Also...and I'm not very good at this so I could be wrong, just an observation that everyone that watches Last Order sees but... If I'm not mistaken, which I probably am *crie*, reg. old ShinRa troopies don't get mako treatment right? I mean that is a factor that differentiates them from SOLDIERS ne? Well it was just that that nice little Mako glow that came sparkling up in Clouds eyes when he impaled himself even further on Sephy's sword, seeming to add to the knowing smile thing that Sephiroth did, really caught my attention and got me thinking on that and perhaps the possibility, since my mind seems to automatically include COI's plot in everything FFVII related now (even the game, your fik fits so perfectly):D, that mayhaps Cloud was experimented or somesuch on before, maybe while in training, or maybe even while he was growing up (reaching on that one maybe). Meh, just a few thoughts that went scampering through my head. On a final note on Last Order I would just like to say that the ending was delightfully EVIL~, me wishes it had been longer and showed everything~ though. X3

Well that all looks to be semi-coherent. *nods* So thusly I shall open up a little window that's quick to hide (is at work) and start reading COI again. =^_________^=

.... *quick skittish glomp* ....
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: October 7th, 2005 08:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
Firstly I love you. <3

::blush:: Thanks! I love hearing from FF7 maniacs... err, I mean enthusiasts.

Secondly I love your little devious plot bunnies concerning President ShinRa and Rufus. It makes perfect sense and opens up a lot of doors for things to come in the future. And just the little hint that we may be seeing Rufus in COI makes me very happy. Just that whole plot idea makes me happy. X3

Heh heh heh. And remember that Tseng could be floating around, too. I'm not sure how or what, but the plot bunnies are feeding voraciously.

It wasn't exactly because Sephiroth smiled, it was how he smiled.

Oh, if you that was a significant smile/look, that's nothing compared to what you get in Advent Children. ::demented giggle::

As for that scene in Last Order, when Sephiroth stares into Cloud's eyes and you see the green glow.... Well, it could be two things (since I'm fairly sure that ordinary Shinra troops are not treated with mako).

1 - (the mundane boring explanation) is that Cloud's eyes are merely reflecting the Mako glow coming up from the reactor.

2 - (the much more interesting possibility) is that Cloud's body is reacting with the massive overload of mako floating around the reactor and that exposure (along with emotion and adrenaline) is what gives Cloud that extra surge of strength to throw Sephiroth around. Which fits into the COI plot very neatly (i.e., Cloud's body is extremely susceptible and therefore extremely sensitive to mako)

Regarding Sephiroth's reaction, I can't help feeling like there's some sense of elemental recognition between Sephiroth and Cloud -- perhaps a feeling that Cloud could be useful to him in the future? It's hard to say, but I get a distinct impression of a weird sort of dark satisfaction in Sephiroth. Call it a promise/threat of 'we will meet again'. ^_-

Well that all looks to be semi-coherent. *nods* So thusly I shall open up a little window that's quick to hide (is at work) and start reading COI again. =^_________^=

Ooh, don't get caught!

.... *quick skittish glomp* ....

::returns glomp::
mukanshin From: mukanshin Date: October 7th, 2005 11:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes. Enthusiasts. :ninja:

Though FFVII never aside I really love all of your fiks. Your my fav auther on the web, and one of my favs period, the first fik of yours that I had read being Mechanics of Control. *wuff* Though COI is most unarguably my favorite. <3

:X I so want to watch my copy of Advent Children but alas never be there time. *weeps*

As for explanations for the mako glow in Clouds eyes. 1. the reflection never ever occured to me, somehow I feel that I should feel remiss. And 2. Yes indeed it does. :D Again that never really occured to me. Boy this doesn't say much for my observational skills. eh-heh

On the smile, God once again I love you!

And don't worry I didn't get caught. ^_____^. Though there was this one moment when I was so completely obsorbed in Chapter 6 Redux that I didn't notice someone 1.talking to me, 2. deciding I wasn't listening and so walked up behind me, 3. wacking me on the head with a peice of paper causing me to jump six feet the air. But I played it cool.
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Yes. Enthusiasts. :ninja:

Though FFVII never aside I really love all of your fiks. Your my fav auther on the web, and one of my favs period, the first fik of yours that I had read being Mechanics of Control. *wuff* Though COI is most unarguably my favorite. <3

:X I so want to watch my copy of Advent Children but alas never be there time. *weeps*

As for explanations for the mako glow in Clouds eyes. 1. the reflection never ever occured to me, somehow I feel that I should feel remiss. And 2. Yes indeed it does. :D Again that never really occured to me. Boy this doesn't say much for my observational skills. eh-heh

On the smile, God once again I love you!

And don't worry I didn't get caught. ^_____^. Though there was this one moment when I was so completely obsorbed in Chapter 6 Redux that I didn't notice someone 1.talking to me, 2. deciding I wasn't listening and so walked up behind me, 3. wacking me on the head with a peice of paper causing me to jump six feet the air. But I played it cool. <___<. >___>. I'm sure they suspected nothing.

I really wish I could get more of all the mumbling's in my head to come out, but that 2hrs sleep is now majorly kicking my arse. Needless to say COI was the only thing that kept me up today. Although it was kinda tough there for a while when I started to see double, which now that I say that I'm still actually seeing. x____x.

Wonderings, Hollow *snugglz Hollow*, it is included in your COI muses apparent lovely ravishesness? I read it along with the other side stories before starting in on COI and I just really really got to wondering how Zack finds out about Cloud, I mean I know he heard about another serviver and all, but I mean the experiment and linkage thing, though that's prob. it. Meh, I'm starting to ramble, which is not a good sign.

Just one more question. *wobbly eyes* Do you mind if I chibi plushie-irze you? *waves chibi Zack, Cloud & Sephy plushies in air*

Yes I have no shame in my fangirlishness. ....unless it makes me coo into a phone, which happened multiple times today *sweat*, me and my addictions, scary thought that. ^____^.
__perplexity__ From: __perplexity__ Date: October 7th, 2005 09:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hurray for fic plot twist line things! AC can provide so much fodder...
...and i never noticed Sephiroth and Cloud potentially defending eachother before ......... how interesting... ^^
madamhydra From: madamhydra Date: October 7th, 2005 10:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
I had to watch the fight at 1/2 to 1/8 speed to pick up the nuances, otherwise it's all a blur. The fight is so fast. ^_^;;;
__perplexity__ From: __perplexity__ Date: October 7th, 2005 10:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Most of the action scenes are really fast, but so damn precise! No slip-ups, no errors, just speed and perfection.
... ouch, sorry, that sounded a litte fangirly.

Sephiroth and Cloud's fight has to be one of my 2 favourite scenes in the whole thing. I can't remember the other one right now, but i'm sure it exists.
delphi From: delphi Date: October 12th, 2005 07:07 am (UTC) (Link)
I realize I'm extremely late replying to this so in advance, sorry! XD;;;

Er, it makes me tremendously happy to know you're working on COI again and best of luck with it :D It's definitely one of my favorite fics of all time. I've been keeping up with it since I was thirteen, and every time I reread it, I pick up on new stuff. Great job, particularily with the OCs (Savois = the complete win)!
11 hisses or Hiss in my ear....